Land Purchasing - Please Clarify One Question I Have

Ok. I get to purchase a 512 m parcel with my premium account for no tier expenses. If I then purchase an adjoining 4096 m parcel will I be charged tier only for the 4096 parcel, or will I be charged tier for 4608 m, which would bump me up to the next tier?

I just can't get my head around this tier pricing. I can't believe that if I purchase 4097 m, I will be charged tier for 8192 m!

You will be charged tier for 4096m2. The bonus 512m tier is on top of any paid tier.

That's how tier levels on mainland work ...
If you own a 1/2sim + 1 sqm you pay for a full sim

and you'd be better off checking inworld rather than using the auction page. prices are usually a lot cheaper and you'll have more choice

Argent is right: you get charged for the amount *over* the 512 bonus, so by paying 4096 tier you can own 4608.

You can do a little better than that, in fact, if the land is all deeded to a group. Tier donated to group gets a 10% bonus, so that's another 460sq.m. Because land only comes in 16sq.m. chunks, the most you could own for 4096 tier is 5056sq.m, all group-deeded.

And if you happen to have the 4096 and the 512 next to each other as you indicate, it's icing on the cake. I have one of those and love it (paying only 4096 tier). But even if they're separated you can still use the 512 to boost the prim numbers of the 4096 if they on the same sim.

Ok. Please explain how I would do this and if there are any disadvantages. I am going to find a 4096 and 512 adjoining (icing as Weston indicates ). I will go ahead and set up a group with another player.

Is there any particular order in which I have to purchase the land or deed to group? Do I need to purchase the 512 first? Please explain the process for getting the very most prims out of adjoining 512 and 4096 lots.

Thanks so much!

Two ways:

1.

Buy up to 4608m2 for yourself.
Deed it to the group, and make sure you check "donate tier" with the deed.
You will discover that you have a little tier left. Donate that to the group.

2.

Donate 4608m2 tier to the group.
Set that group as your current group.
Buy the land, and make sure you check "buy for group".

After you're done, you'll have a little extra tier that you can use to buy a little extra land for the group, if you can find a patch of 460m2 on the sim to buy.

I am in the same situation, I own a little more then a half a sim. But don't want to pay for a full sim in order to keep it. So I rent the extra tier that I need from http://ninjaland.net/mainland/ at quite reasonable prices. L$0.25/SM per Week

It goes beyond this. I don't know why, but the land search tab doesn't show everything. At least not in proper sorting order when I sort it. I've stood on for sale parcels that have been for sale for exactly as long as the parcel right next to them - from the same seller, and yet only one shows in search.

- Start exploring the map with land for sale flipped on. Spend a bit of time at it. If you pay over 2000L for the 512 land you buy, you had better make sure you spent enough time comparing to really be sure that piece of land was worth it - because chances are it wasn't.

-if- you are getting close to a tier point, make an alt, make a group, and transfer the land of both avatars to the group - you will get a 10% bonus on allowed land and up to a pretty high point multiple premiums are cheaper than tiering.
- That bonus for me was just perfect for buying a little 48m strip between me and my neighbor, and still leaving me enough for a second 512 plot somewhere (that I have yet to buy). She bought the strip when she bumped herself up in tier, and sold the 48m to me for a cheap price after subdividing it from the actual bit she had wanted across the road).

Only real disadvantage of having a group is land settings for things like televisions and radios. Some or most just will not work well on group land.

A few other tips. Make sure you trust other group members, and make sure you know who has what ability such as ban/eject, land sale or land profit sharing (if you sell the land they will get some of the money.) If you enable them to sell your land they very well could. Others here can probably tell you exactly how to set up all those abilities. I kind of muddle through that.

The real (tier) bonus doesn't kick in until you begin getting lots of land, so if you just want that size lot and to stick with it, it may not be worth the hassle of making a group and deeding the land to it. You get ten percent more land before a tier jump, in a group. But to get a 512 without a tier jump you'd need ten times that much land first.

Anything you put on group land, set it to the group, then if you ever need to hit auto return to get rid of griefing objects, you can, without losing all your stuff/having to rebuild/reposition it again.

be careful about that - the other player could sell the land out from under you. You'll get half the sale price, but you'll still lose the plot...
- and they could always sell it to their own alt for next to nothing.



make sure your TV / Radio is (copy)(mod) and deed it to the group. I had to get two radios to get myself set up - one had good scripts but was no copy and 9 prims for a boombox... (but free), the other had full perms but horrid scripts (max 10 channels). So I ripped the first one apart and put its pieces into the second 1 prim one.
- then I deeded it to my group. Both radios were freebies, so I can always get stacks more of them.

Oh heck. Here are the radios I used:
Metaversal Vintage Radio (xstreet - the 1 prim one I kept the exterior of)

Artisan Designs Free Land Radio (available in his shop next to the front door - it has three radios, including one made for group land - that's the 9 prim one...)
- It did not take me much technical knowledge to do this. It was just a matter of dragging contents from one to the other... Although I edited the stations notecard to have all of the stations of both.

There are similar TV solutions too if you search long enough.

What she said.

Thank you all for your tips. So here's my plan based on what I've read so far:

1. Find a 4092 plot I like for what I want to spend that also has a 512 plot adjoining it that I like for what I want to spend - of course both have to be for sale.

2. Buy the 512 plot.

3. Buy the 4092 plot.

I will only be charged tier for the 4092 plot. Is this correct?

BTW: wouldn't my alt also have to have a premium account to get the group bonus?

Thank you all for your help with this!

Yes. It doesn't matter what order you buy the plots in. You will be charged for 4096 tier and get 4608 tier because you get the premium bonus. You can fill that tier up in any szed chunks you want.

The bonus is for having the land in a group. The alt is because you need two people to be in a group to keep the group existing.

With the bonus... you might find instead of a 512 there's a 768 or a 640 nearby that you'd like to buy, and if you buy it for the group you'll be able to do it.

I would also not worry TOO much about how much land you buy, or about filling up your tier. If you can only find 4096 you like, then that's better than getting 4608 or 5060 that you don't.

You've been a big help. One last question: There is a nice 4608 plot that I would like to purchase. Is it necessary for the seller to first split it up into a 512 and 4096 in order for me to pay tier for just the 4096? Judging by your previous post, I would think not. This is all rather confusing to me, but thanks to you all I am starting to understand.

No. It's like money. If you had $40 and someone gave you an extra $5, you wouldn't need to get the cheesemonger to slice your cheese up into a small slice and a big one.

Um... I think that means I can buy a 4608 plot and only pay the 4096 tier... si?

Si.

Thank you so much for the clarification. I'm enjoying my land hunt more and more now that I know the ins and outs of the tier system. Thanks Argent, and all the rest of you too!

YW and yep the free tier is deducted no matter where your land is or in what types of pieces.

As long as it is all in the same name whether that be an avatar or a group name.