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Lindal Kidd

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01-19-2009 15:15

Does anyone remember who made that sculpty of the male noob?

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Tarina Sewell

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01-19-2009 15:23

stavin carter is the one I have

Lindal Kidd

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01-19-2009 15:53

According to his profile, he's not the original creator.

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Tarina Sewell

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01-19-2009 16:10

idk then sorry

Qie Niangao

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01-19-2009 16:20

Per /327/a0/283393/1.html, maybe (?) Art Laxness? Anyway, I bet Mari knows.

LittleMe Jewell

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01-19-2009 16:28

Art Laxness - per Mari, a few months back when I asked.

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Marianne McCann

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01-19-2009 17:39

From: Lindal Kidd

Does anyone remember who made that sculpty of the male noob?

The original was made by Art Laxness. The copybotted freebie one was ripped by that other person.

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Nina Stepford

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01-19-2009 21:58

my full perm noob is a rip?

has the original creator said anything about the full perm noob?

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Marianne McCann

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01-20-2009 00:33

From: Nina Stepford

my full perm noob is a rip?

has the original creator said anything about the full perm noob?

Yes.

As to the original creator's words, I don't know if he has spoken out about it. For all I know, there may be reasons he has not spoken up about it. The piece was created primarily for his NOOBility installation, and sold at Black Swan. It was not sold full perm.

If you'd like additional confirmatinon on the nature of the piece in question, you'll find it at http://npirl.blogspot.com/2008/09/most-complex-sculpture-in-any-world.html. I'll quote, cuz it's a long article -- but it's a good read overall.

From: someone

Unfortunately, what did get nicked was Art's prim-based noob. It was copybotted and free full-mod noobs became available - even via SL Exchange - all over the grid a few weeks ago. While Art filed a DMCA, he has not had a response from Linden Lab.

Also, a coment by Laxness' friend, Seifert Surface, on the SL Herald site at http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2008/12/m-linden---phul.html

From: someone

The pictured statue is derivative of a copybotted work of art by Art Laxness. The prim noob was created by him for an installation on Rezzable's Black Swan sim, then copybotted by Stavin Carter and released as a "freebie". I'm sure there is some irony here somewhere.

I could pull up some other references, but its late.

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Conifer Dada

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01-20-2009 03:06

Surely the creator was LL, or more specifically, the person who actually designed the original 'live' noob. So any of the statues are copies!

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Qie Niangao

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01-20-2009 03:32

From: Conifer Dada

Surely the creator was LL, or more specifically, the person who actually designed the original 'live' noob. So any of the statues are copies!

No, the creator was surely the Creator, the product of whose Hands was shamelessly copied by LL.

Hope Philip has a good IP attorney with him when he gets to the Pearly Gates.

Tarina Sewell

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01-20-2009 09:25

From: Marianne McCann

The original was made by Art Laxness. The copybotted freebie one was ripped by that other person.

I had no idea..... I hate supporting someone who steals.. I shall delete the noob ... (not that I used him anyway)

Carl Metropolitan

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01-20-2009 12:27

From: someone

Unfortunately, what did get nicked was Art's prim-based noob. It was copybotted and free full-mod noobs became available - even via SL Exchange - all over the grid a few weeks ago. While Art filed a DMCA, he has not had a response from Linden Lab.

It is possible that Linden Lab has not responded to the DMCA because they consider the noob statue to be an unauthorized derivative work of their original newbie design and AFK animation.

Or they may just be really slow...

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01-20-2009 12:30

From: Tarina Sewell

I had no idea..... I hate supporting someone who steals.. I shall delete the noob ... (not that I used him anyway)

I'm in the middle of my semi-regular update to NCI's freebies. It's becoming increasingly frustrating to maintain a collection of legal freebies, as sometimes the listed creator is not the true creator. It would certainly make things easier for me, if LL removed unauthorized rips from their database.

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Jade Angkarn

Always a Night Owl

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01-20-2009 21:05

I've seen this particular n00b used *all* over SL, in many derivative works. Certainly I am against the use of stolen content, however most people are probably not aware that it was stolen.

I just wonder whether it makes sense to break so much content (and some very creative uses out there) by removing the ripped n00b from the database. I'm not justifying the use of the ripped n00b, but seeing all that derivative content break is disturbing too. Does that mean then, that nobody should use any part of any freebie because it could be unknowingly stolen content?

eku Zhong

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01-20-2009 21:17

From: Jade Angkarn

I've seen this particular n00b used *all* over SL, in many derivative works. Certainly I am against the use of stolen content, however most people are probably not aware that it was stolen.

I just wonder whether it makes sense to break so much content (and some very creative uses out there) by removing the ripped n00b from the database. I'm not justifying the use of the ripped n00b, but seeing all that derivative content break is disturbing too. Does that mean then, that nobody should use any part of any freebie because it could be unknowingly stolen content?

probably means that .. but i did notice that the original creators got their material using GL intercept from LL stuff.. so...
ironic isnt it.

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Lindal Kidd Dances With Noobs Join date: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8,371	01-19-2009 15:15 Does anyone remember who made that sculpty of the male noob? _____________________ It's still My World and My Imagination! So there. Lindal Kidd
Tarina Sewell Just Browsing Thank you Join date: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 2,180	01-19-2009 15:23 stavin carter is the one I have
Lindal Kidd Dances With Noobs Join date: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8,371	01-19-2009 15:53 According to his profile, he's not the original creator. _____________________ It's still My World and My Imagination! So there. Lindal Kidd
Tarina Sewell Just Browsing Thank you Join date: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 2,180	01-19-2009 16:10 idk then sorry
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	01-19-2009 16:20 Per /327/a0/283393/1.html, maybe (?) Art Laxness? Anyway, I bet Mari knows.
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	01-19-2009 16:28 Art Laxness - per Mari, a few months back when I asked. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	01-19-2009 17:39 From: Lindal Kidd Does anyone remember who made that sculpty of the male noob? The original was made by Art Laxness. The copybotted freebie one was ripped by that other person. _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Nina Stepford was lied to by LL Join date: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 3,373	01-19-2009 21:58 my full perm noob is a rip? has the original creator said anything about the full perm noob? _____________________ SLU - ban em then bash em! ~~GREATEST HITS~~ pro-life? gtfo! slu- banning opposing opinions one at a time http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/15428-disingenuous.html learn to shut up and nod in agreement... or be banned! http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/off-topic/1239-americans-not-stupid.html
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	01-20-2009 00:33 From: Nina Stepford my full perm noob is a rip? has the original creator said anything about the full perm noob? Yes. As to the original creator's words, I don't know if he has spoken out about it. For all I know, there may be reasons he has not spoken up about it. The piece was created primarily for his NOOBility installation, and sold at Black Swan. It was not sold full perm. If you'd like additional confirmatinon on the nature of the piece in question, you'll find it at http://npirl.blogspot.com/2008/09/most-complex-sculpture-in-any-world.html. I'll quote, cuz it's a long article -- but it's a good read overall. From: someone Unfortunately, what did get nicked was Art's prim-based noob. It was copybotted and free full-mod noobs became available - even via SL Exchange - all over the grid a few weeks ago. While Art filed a DMCA, he has not had a response from Linden Lab. Also, a coment by Laxness' friend, Seifert Surface, on the SL Herald site at http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2008/12/m-linden---phul.html From: someone The pictured statue is derivative of a copybotted work of art by Art Laxness. The prim noob was created by him for an installation on Rezzable's Black Swan sim, then copybotted by Stavin Carter and released as a "freebie". I'm sure there is some irony here somewhere. I could pull up some other references, but its late. _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Conifer Dada Hiya m'dooks! Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,716	01-20-2009 03:06 Surely the creator was LL, or more specifically, the person who actually designed the original 'live' noob. So any of the statues are copies! _____________________
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	01-20-2009 03:32 From: Conifer Dada Surely the creator was LL, or more specifically, the person who actually designed the original 'live' noob. So any of the statues are copies! No, the creator was surely the Creator, the product of whose Hands was shamelessly copied by LL. Hope Philip has a good IP attorney with him when he gets to the Pearly Gates.
Tarina Sewell Just Browsing Thank you Join date: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 2,180	01-20-2009 09:25 From: Marianne McCann The original was made by Art Laxness. The copybotted freebie one was ripped by that other person. I had no idea..... I hate supporting someone who steals.. I shall delete the noob ... (not that I used him anyway)
Carl Metropolitan Registered User Join date: 7 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,031	01-20-2009 12:27 From: someone Unfortunately, what did get nicked was Art's prim-based noob. It was copybotted and free full-mod noobs became available - even via SL Exchange - all over the grid a few weeks ago. While Art filed a DMCA, he has not had a response from Linden Lab. It is possible that Linden Lab has not responded to the DMCA because they consider the noob statue to be an unauthorized derivative work of their original newbie design and AFK animation. Or they may just be really slow... _____________________
Carl Metropolitan Registered User Join date: 7 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,031	01-20-2009 12:30 From: Tarina Sewell I had no idea..... I hate supporting someone who steals.. I shall delete the noob ... (not that I used him anyway) I'm in the middle of my semi-regular update to NCI's freebies. It's becoming increasingly frustrating to maintain a collection of legal freebies, as sometimes the listed creator is not the true creator. It would certainly make things easier for me, if LL removed unauthorized rips from their database. _____________________
Jade Angkarn Always a Night Owl Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 209	01-20-2009 21:05 I've seen this particular n00b used all over SL, in many derivative works. Certainly I am against the use of stolen content, however most people are probably not aware that it was stolen. I just wonder whether it makes sense to break so much content (and some very creative uses out there) by removing the ripped n00b from the database. I'm not justifying the use of the ripped n00b, but seeing all that derivative content break is disturbing too. Does that mean then, that nobody should use any part of any freebie because it could be unknowingly stolen content?
eku Zhong Apocalips = low prims Join date: 27 May 2008 Posts: 752	01-20-2009 21:17 From: Jade Angkarn I've seen this particular n00b used all over SL, in many derivative works. Certainly I am against the use of stolen content, however most people are probably not aware that it was stolen. I just wonder whether it makes sense to break so much content (and some very creative uses out there) by removing the ripped n00b from the database. I'm not justifying the use of the ripped n00b, but seeing all that derivative content break is disturbing too. Does that mean then, that nobody should use any part of any freebie because it could be unknowingly stolen content? probably means that .. but i did notice that the original creators got their material using GL intercept from LL stuff.. so... ironic isnt it. _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Apocalips%20Japan/111/78/24?