Just how laggy are Homesteads?

With all this flap over the new TOS stating that no Adult content is allowed on the mainland, my partner and I are thinking about renting a homestead. While we love our little piece of the mainland the possiblity of being banned or forced to give up our way of life here seems to preclude living there any longer. Renting a homestead seems to be the only way to be sure we will not be harrassed about the content of our home or our lifestyle.

But I have some concerns about homesteads and living on one. I am hoping that some of you that live on a homestead can tell me what it is like as far as the lag goes. And can you reccomend a good landlord that will give me full estate rights including designating the land as Adult and white listing it?

Lizzy

Hiya Lizz
Just pay a visit to one of my 2 stores to get e feeling about the lag. Many sculpts rezzed, scripted funiture, a zillion one prim plants, and still not lagged. Of course that's different when 20 visitors are there at once but that did not happen so far

As for a landlord, I would definitely recommend Melody Regent, where I rent. She has a very stable and established estate, and you get all the rights you need (ie Estate Manager of your own HS). Ask around and you will get her reputation confirmed as well

Greetings, Marcel

They're not laggy unless you over use them.

I have a homestead....I used roughly 2500 of my 3500 prims.....I have NO problem with lag of any kind. I've had up to 6 people at a time there.....and never any lag issues. There's a few scripts running.....the waves....some light features but nothing too crazy.

So...over-all....if you're looking for a homestead as a private island....you'd probably be very happy with it. Just don't build clud or mall and hold outrageous parties.

Hi Lizz, I have a couple of homesteads with quite a few critter scripts running(birds, fish etc.) I have not noticed a bit of lag the few months I've been here. I was on mainland for a couple of years, the shit to roses ratio drove me out, the clear horizons, sunsets and dawns of island life are fabulous every time. My mainland sims were 195 US a month, the island homestead sims are 124 US a month, there is no comparing the value (from an environmental aspect.) Like Marcel, I also bought/rent from Melody Regent and would definately recommend her too!

we live on a homestead, and for the most part its ok...lately ive noticed more lag/delays in things rezzing-but-that might just be at peak times for the amount of people online .

One thing that we cant do is use some of the building tools we have with out problems. Sculpt studio for example performs very badly on our homestead, but on our full to capacity class 5 sim its fine...not sure why that is, as we havent stuffed our homestead with scripts or used up all the prims,its just our house, lots of water,plants etc- and we regulary restart it (as suggested by an estate owner who advises his residents to restart them weekly ?)

My SL hubby and I live on a homestead, have used all but around 300 of our prims, scripted/sculpted items, you name it. We had our wedding there as well and maxed out the sim avi allowance. I didn't have any lag at all. Now, he said when he first got it and put his house and stuff out, it was really laggy. Haven't had the first problem since I've been there, though. Even on my really crappy computer, lol.

The best thing to do is get a HUD or 2 or scripts that communicate between each other and go to the Homestead in question and see what it is about.

I have found that on overused Homestead's a HUD that i use will have an extremely slow reaction time as well as our Furniture-Foo scripted Furniture.

Homesteads aren't so much "lag" as they are a "script throttle".

As you walk and fly around (and even drive around) in a homestead, you won't really notice much difference. It "feels" the same.

Here are the areas that we noticed issues back when we had an Open Space sim (before the reclassification).

1) Menus are slower to appear when you click - click an Xcite or Sensations attachment in a regular sim and the menu is there and waiting by the time you get your mouse up there. Do it on a homestead and your mouse will beat the menu. Not a huge deal. All menu responses will be like this.

2) Timers and chat between objects runs slow: we have a barrel racing system for the horses. The actual timer would keep pretty good time - but it was weird. You'd go through the gate, and the timer would start. The board would be very slow to update (a separate object - it talks through chat). At the end of your run, the timer would say it stopped. The board would be about 10-15 seconds behind (on a 20-25 second run). It would eventually catch up. The actual time calculations were a bit questionable too. And if you started a new run before the scoreboard caught up - it would fall even farther behind.

3) We had to limit our 7Seas fishing contests to 10-12 people. There have been some improvements in the fishing script system since then and I hear it's a lot better, but it did tend to fall behind and count the scores. Quite often, the contest would end and the last few minutes worth of catches would never hit the board. It would shut down and stop listening before processing all that it heard. (I.e. it lags a bit as the chat messages build up in there or whatever).

4) Holodecks and rez boxes rez things a lot slower. Not a huge issue, but you WILL notice it. And if you have a holodeck (like a horizons) make sure you put a hard floor under it to catch people - they WILL fall. lol

For the most part though - especially if it's not really a public place, you just slow down your pace a bit with it and it all works fine. The barrel racing thing was really the only issue we had at all that I couldn't work around in some acceptable way.

There are some adult residential sims in the listings now too. Regular ones. 1/4 sim is less cost, same prims, less script throttling than a whole homestead. You have neighbors, but you have neighbors now on the mainland. Good thing here is that everyone on the sim is residential. So you wont' have to worry about laggy clubs coming in and what not.

I think you'll find, too, that there are a lot of people who are in your same boat. So as the next few weeks go on, you will find more and more "Adult Residential" sims popping up. They won't be "porn" sims - they will just be places where you can hang out and, so long as you are cool and do unto others, you are free to do what you want and not worry about someone ARing you.

I know our sim has been really popular for that, and I wish I had the money to pick up a few more at this point and expand. lol When all this started we decided to get our own sim and even though we only have about 20% of our stuff that is really "ADULT" - we didn't want to split up our stuff (we sell horse jumps and things like that along with the adult stuff). So we just upped our expansion plan by a few months and got a sim. This weekend I'm going to turn on the "Adult" flag, but really, down below we have about a dozen or so people renting cottages and apartments and we've laid out horse jumping courses, barrel racing, 9 holes of golf, both kinds of fishing, swimming, a movie theater, a rec area that changes between drive-in, carnival, bumper cars, and a few other things depending upon what kind of mood I'm in when I go down there. lol So in the end, the sim doesn't "feel" adult at all, but once I flick the flag, everyone is free to do as they please and not worry about the Porn Cops coming through.

So, I don't think you are going to be alone in all of this. Homestead is a possibility - and not a bad one if you dont' mind slowing down your pace a bit when using things. But if it were me, I'd go for a quarter sim. The few estate people who are setting these up now and being pro-active about all this are not upping the price at all. Same tier rates as ever. And come Monday when the great land rush is on - I imagine there will be estate managers all over flicking the switch and firing up new sims to meet the demand.

Thank you everyone so much for all the information. It looks like we will be renting a homestead tonight. I build and script, and most everything on our land I created. So I can tweak things to keep the lag down it looks like..

We rented a 1/2 sim for two years on a regular full sim. It was mostly ok, but we had a few bad neighbors over the years. Including one that was learning to script and lagged the sim out so bad that the landlord banned him.

I think for us a homestead will be the way to go. Full control, and no worries about the porn cops getting upset with some of my artwork, or my little BDSM toys in the basement.

I agree that there is going to be a huge land rush as word of these changes gets out. It will be best if we get on the leading edge of that now. I think the pickings will be slim very soon until the availiblity catches up to the demand.

I also expect that our mainland will be worthless come next week. Our tier is due in a two weeks so I may end up selling it at landbot prices to get out from under it. *sighs* At least I did not pay a premium price for it in the first place.

Yep. You may not be able to edit all the scripts you have going (if they are no mod scripts in things) but once you've been there a few weeks, your understanding of how scripting works will make it a lot easier to track down what's doing it.

Another cool thing with a homestead is that you (usually) get estate manager rights. So you can bring up the "Top Scripts" list - that isn't wholly accurate and scans once so you might see some objects as the Peak in usage and others on a Low Spot. But it does give you an idea of what is causing what.

Another thing that tends to lag that I forgot to mention is stuff that changes positions (like Puppeteer/zFire Prim Animator) and scripted texture changes. They all still work, but the animations and texture changes won't be as smooth.

Another great thing as a scripter/builder - if you make something on an homestead and it works - then you know your thing will work in most circumstances. I sometimes wish I still had a homestead/openspace for that. When we had ours I ended up redoing a lot of my code in some of our stuff. Everything "worked" fine - but I found areas where I could streamline things a bit because of that throttle. Developing in a situation where you are forced into the "worst case scenario" by default can definitely have advantages.