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Fluke Gumbo
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05-16-2008 08:09
I am getting people using my private land for sex and even one I suspect made a new avatar to keep coming back to annoy me. Anyway, I want to put in a security system. Which one is the best?
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05-16-2008 08:12
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Cristalle Karami
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05-16-2008 08:12
my vote is for hippoSECURE from HippoTech. copiable, can be networked together to cover larger areas and one shared access list, can scan rectangular spaces.
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Oryx Tempel
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05-16-2008 08:15
You can also ban specific avatars using the About Land/Access tab. Adding avatars to the ban list will cause them to see the big red ban lines, and they won't be allowed onto your parcel, while all others still can.
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05-16-2008 08:35
From: Cristalle Karami
my vote is for hippoSECURE from HippoTech. copiable, can be networked together to cover larger areas and one shared access list, can scan rectangular spaces.
That caused me to sit back and think about the rectangular scanning, because they all scan rectangular spaces, in a way.

The one I sell is an easy to use, no frills, security device, but it doesn't do rectangular spaces as such. What it does is scan a sphere but it only deals with people who are on or over the specific land parcel. When the range is set to scan beyond the parcel borders, it effectively deals with a rectangle or square - just like all of them do. So I wondered why go to the scripting lengths of scanning a rectangle.

The only time I can see it being useful is when the land is not owned by the owner of the security device, and not owned by a group for deeding the device to. In those circumstances, the device would need to work on land that is owned by someone or group other than the security device's owner, and operating a rectangle would be very useful. BUT such a device could be used on anyone else's land for the purpose of being a pain - especially if it's copyable.

I don't think that's a good idea, which means that scanning a rectangle is of no benefit, because it can't scan areas where a spherical scan can't (the maximum SL scan range is 96m in all directions), and since the device should need to be owned by the landowner, rectangular scans are meaningless.
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Ron Khondji
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05-16-2008 08:41
What if you only want to keep people out of your building?
A rectangular scan would work in that case.
Cristalle Karami
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05-16-2008 08:42
From: Phil Deakins
That caused me to sit back and think about the rectangular scanning, because they all scan rectangular spaces, in a way.

The one I sell is an easy to use, no frills, security device, but it doesn't do rectangular spaces as such. What it does is scan a sphere but it only deals with people who are on or over the specific land parcel. When the range is set to scan beyond the parcel borders, it effectively deals with a rectangle or square - just like all of them do. So I wondered why go to the scripting lengths of scanning a rectangle.

The only time I can see it being useful is when the land is not owned by the owner of the security device, and not owned by a group for deeding the device to. In those circumstances, the device would need to work on land that is owned by someone or group other than the security device's owner, and operating a rectangle would be very useful. BUT such a device could be used on anyone else's land for the purpose of being a pain - especially if it's copyable.

I don't think that's a good idea, which means that scanning a rectangle is of no benefit, because it can't scan areas when a spherical scan can't scan (the maximum SL scan range is 96m in all directions), and since the device should need to be owned by the landowner, rectangular scans are meaningless.

It is useful if you have a more sophisticated access scheme, such as allowing access to a foyer or living room, but not the bedroom of a house. Or allowing people to sit on the patio furniture outside but not enter inside the house. If you have no need for that feature, it's not a big deal. It certainly isn't mandatory. But it is there if you need it and why would one argue against having extra power?

Edited to add that I use a rectangular scheme for all my properties and it allows people to fly around without getting warned, pushed, etc.
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Phil Deakins
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05-16-2008 08:42
From: Ron Khondji
What if you only want to keep people out of your building?
A rectangular scan would work in that case.
Excellent thinking. I didn't sit back and think long enough, did I ?

[added]
That also applies to Cristalle's post, which I've just seen.
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Solomon Devoix
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05-16-2008 09:02
So it can scan a rectangular area, or a cubic area? That is, could it be set to scan, say, a 40 x 60 rectangle and up to only 20m above ground, defining a volume? That would let someone fly OVER a house, for example, yet not come INSIDE it.
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Ceera Murakami
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05-16-2008 09:14
Most systems that allow a volume to be defined will have you designate two coordinates, for the lower corner on one side and higher corner on the opposite diagonal. So you could, for example, define that as the SE floor corner of your bedroom and the NW ceiling corner of your bedroom, and it would ONLY affect what was in that room. Meanwhile, people can fly overhead or walk up to the front door unhindered.

Defining a rectangular space is especially handy for a skybox security system in a densely packed rental area.

The Omega Concern had a great system that allowed defining a rectangular effect area, but last I looked they were doing a code revision and had pulled theirs from the market. Others I am sure have similar features.
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Solomon Devoix
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05-16-2008 09:18
Thanks; that's good to know. I've never had need for a security system yet, though I HAVE thought about it on a few occasions, and information like this is helpful for future decisions.
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Fluke Gumbo
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05-16-2008 10:41
Thank you all for the responses.
Czari Zenovka
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05-16-2008 10:52
From: Cristalle Karami
my vote is for hippoSECURE from HippoTech. copiable, can be networked together to cover larger areas and one shared access list, can scan rectangular spaces.


I second this system. It is the one we have in our skybox, is easy to set up and use and we LOVE it. We only have it set to maintain privacy in our sky home. It does not affect the small skybox lower down that we use for building, etc. nor the ground level of our land.
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Lear Cale
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05-16-2008 11:16
From: Ron Khondji
What if you only want to keep people out of your building?
A rectangular scan would work in that case.


Right, and also very useful for rented apartments, where the landlord owns the scanner but the tenant has admin privileges. Then it can teleport but won't affect neighboring apartments: you can ban your neighbor and he won't be ejected.

I've worked extensively with two, both of which I can recommend heartily:

Zed Zeddmore's security orb
Nela Lykin's land protector

Both of these have arbitrary scan setups, so you could cover an L-shaped building if you wanted. Nontrivial to set up, so why bother? Well, I do odd jobs for my friend and landlord, and in his islands, the covenant disallows ban lines. As a service we set up scanners to cover any house or private area on each person's property, allowing people to pass by without being molested by security scanners. Most residents liked this compromise. But, unnecessary for most cases.
Classy Patton
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05-16-2008 19:19
From: Fluke Gumbo
I am getting people using my private land for sex and even one I suspect made a new avatar to keep coming back to annoy me. Anyway, I want to put in a security system. Which one is the best?


I agree with Lear's recommendations for sure but before I did anything else about this, I think I'd just HAVE to stand and grade them. You know, hold up numbered cards, scoring them on things like endurance, creativity, degree of difficulty and such like.

But then, I'm odd like that ;)
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Ceka Cianci
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05-16-2008 20:12
just get the dancing cow attachment and start to circle them and run over the top of them until you kill their mood..just until you find a good orb or something..

i remember when i used to be a dancer and in the change room we had this orb and it would do this count down as these guys would just stand there talking to us asking..where are you from..how old are you..
all of us would be in the dancers channle 5....4....3...2...we have another winner!!
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05-16-2008 20:18
But.. but... your place is the bestest I have found to have sexorz in. And believe me, I have crashed some of the coolest places.
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Ceka Cianci
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05-16-2008 20:21
From: Macphisto Angelus
But.. but... your place is the bestest I have found to have sexorz in. And believe me, I have crashed some of the coolest places.

OMG!!hahahaha i lost my tea on that one..you caught me so off guard hahahaha
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Susie Boffin
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05-16-2008 20:28
The best security system is a visitor monitor so you can see who came to your land and ban them all. Why do you care who had sex on your land?
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