Linden Labs breaks own rules for adult content
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-10-2009 12:04
Dungeon and bondage are adult filtered words, so clearly inappropriate for PG land. Therefore the dungeon at Baronial Castle/196/194/60, on PG land, and owned by Governor Linden, should not be there. They expect us to follow the rules, but they seem unable to follow them themselves. I filed an AR of course http://sites.google.com/a/wildblue.net/dungeonphoto/
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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06-10-2009 12:18
How wonderfully petty. (^_^)y
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-10-2009 12:32
From: Imnotgoing Sideways How wonderfully petty. (^_^)y It's payback for that avatar being banned from the JIRA. And yes, I enjoyed doing it. On a more serious note, I wanted to document it for future people getting AR's for adult content. "But Governor Linden did it, it must be OK" 
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Marianne McCann
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06-10-2009 15:01
From: DanielRavenNest Noe "But Governor Linden did it, it must be OK"  Sometimes a dungeon is just a dungeon.
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06-10-2009 15:03
From: Marianne McCann Sometimes a dungeon is just a dungeon. Well said, Marianne!  It's all about context...
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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KB6010 has been changed
06-10-2009 15:12
Thats the page that defines PG, Mature and Adult regions. It's edit date is yesterday. Does anyone have a copy of the older version to compare and see what exactly was changed?
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06-10-2009 15:12
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06-10-2009 15:41
From: DanielRavenNest Noe Thats the page that defines PG, Mature and Adult regions. It's edit date is yesterday. Does anyone have a copy of the older version to compare and see what exactly was changed?  yes yes i know of these magical numbers of enlightenment..but you hev to completed-ly the neenja training to get to the next level of training that will lead you to the paper of the location of the map to the guys house who holds the secrete of where his brother is that knows a guy that will ask me for the magical numbers ..then and only then can you be truly not TRUly the company but truly the true kind of truly be enlightened 
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06-10-2009 15:58
NinjaEdit Linden?
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Marianne McCann
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06-10-2009 16:38
From: Sindy Tsure Well said, Marianne!  It's all about context... I've played a kid avvie since 2006. As such I've known the TOS and CS are almost *always* about context. Kid avvie skipping down Anderson Alley in Shermerville with ponytails = Good (& likely me) Kid avvie skipping down Hard Alley with pony play attachments on = not so much or Playyard with a slide, some spring animals, a climbing frame, and a swingset = Good Playyard with a slide, an sexbed, a St. Andrew's Cross, and a swingset = Not so much (Okay, so they're not perfect metaphors, but you get the idea)
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06-10-2009 16:51
The torture equipment might be part of LL's attempt to market SL to governments.
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06-10-2009 16:52
From: SuezanneC Baskerville The torture equipment might be part of LL's attempt to market SL to governments. Does that mean M will go on an apology tour?
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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06-10-2009 16:53
From: Marianne McCann ...(Okay, so they're not perfect metaphors, but you get the idea) Technically, I was wearing an anthro set. It's often mistaken for pony tack. (^_^)y
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06-10-2009 16:53
From: SuezanneC Baskerville The torture equipment might be part of LL's attempt to market SL to governments. Might be a custom order for Cheney now too since he has time on his hands.
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Destiny Niles
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06-10-2009 17:53
Sorry to bust the latest conspiracy theory. But it's abandoned land, the new owner will have to remove the offending prims. And I don't think cages are banned in any sim, but depends on how you use them.
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06-10-2009 18:02
From: Destiny Niles Sorry to bust the latest conspiracy theory. But it's abandoned land, the new owner will have to remove the offending prims. And I don't think cages are banned in any sim, but depends on how you use them. So.. It seems jumping to conclusions is not the best way to proceed on an evangelical quest. Oh, sorry. That IS the way it's done.
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06-10-2009 18:04
From: Marianne McCann Playyard with a slide, an sexbed, a St. Andrew's Cross, and a swingset = Not so much I think I saw that -- wasn't it a Madonna music video?
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06-10-2009 18:18
There goes my medieval reenactment society plans. *sigh*
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Viktoria Dovgal
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06-10-2009 19:04
What is the point of this exercise, to make sure that your future ARs get circular filed?
We are still operating under the old rules, even while some of the new machinery is getting live tests. You will know when the new rules are in effect, there will be a popup screen thingy that will make you agree to an updated ToS.
Allowable parcel descriptions and allowable parcel contents are not being tied like that. They are being treated separately. That's because, common hysteria aside, LL is actually aware that the filtered words are commonly used to find adult content, but are not necessarily adult in and of themselves.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-10-2009 20:54
bondage is not a term defining a sexual activity.
where do i click to get it removed from the filter?
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Marianne McCann
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06-10-2009 20:58
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Technically, I was wearing an anthro set. It's often mistaken for pony tack. (^_^)y I... should be lad I don't understand all that, yes? From: Feldspar Millgrove I think I saw that -- wasn't it a Madonna music video? Likely from around 1989 or so
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06-11-2009 01:16
From: DanielRavenNest Noe Dungeon and bondage are adult filtered words, so clearly inappropriate for PG land. Therefore the dungeon at Baronial Castle/196/194/60, on PG land, and owned by Governor Linden, should not be there. They expect us to follow the rules, but they seem unable to follow them themselves. I filed an AR of course http://sites.google.com/a/wildblue.net/dungeonphoto/Wish we could file AR's for petty stupidity by drama queens............ Why not just seend a letter to your Senator asking to ban kids from saying the word "dungeon" in RL too.
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06-11-2009 07:04
From: Destiny Niles Sorry to bust the latest conspiracy theory. But it's abandoned land, the new owner will have to remove the offending prims. And I don't think cages are banned in any sim, but depends on how you use them. No, "Baronial Castle" is a display sim that is part or the Linden-Sponsored and Linden-Advertized Land Expo event. It is not "Abandoned", and the maker of all the content is a Linden Mole, while the owner of all the content is Governor Linden. Not one prim there is something "left behind by a resident" as part of reclaimed abandoned land. You can compare it prim for prim to what is at the Mature-rated Castle Valeria Infohub, also owned and operated by Linden Lab. It doesn't matter if the bondage stuff there is sexual or not. If "Dungeon" and other words to describe such a place can not be used to advertize a location except on an Adult rated sim, then at the very least this sim should be rated Mature. Or the word filters in the 1.23 RC client relating to dungeon and similar non-sexual words should be removed, as a "Dungeon" is being shown here a sa "Perfectly acceptable PG Build".
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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06-11-2009 07:29
Having a castle: PG. (^_^)
Plus a dungeon: PG. (^_^)
Plus simple sit pose cages and shackles: PG. (^_^)
Plus sex and torture pose BDSM supplies: Mature. (^_^)
Plus listing the dungeon specifically in search: Adult. (^_^)
Much ado about nothing: Priceless. (=_=)y
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Nika Talaj
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06-11-2009 07:34
From: Imnotgoing Sideways Having a castle: PG. (^_^)... Much ado about nothing: Priceless. (=_=)y /me laughs hard and bookmarks the post, in case she ever needs tangible evidence that Immy's typist is an adult. 
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