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Sommerland Starostin
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12-30-2008 02:56
Is just dumb! Why not at least two or...dare I say it three? Why would anyone buy a sofa with one sit anim? What are these people thinking?? It's very disappointed at times, as you think you've found exactly the right thing and then you check out the anims and one little sit. What's the use of that? I would think if you're going to design something you would make it realistic. :(
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12-30-2008 03:13
:) I guess That's the difference between high quality and low quality..
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12-30-2008 03:30
Yes but everybody's idea of high quality seems to be one person sitting SEDUCTIVELY on a couch.
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12-30-2008 03:56
From: Sommerland Starostin
Is just dumb! Why not at least two or...dare I say it three? Why would anyone buy a sofa with one sit anim? What are these people thinking?? It's very disappointed at times, as you think you've found exactly the right thing and then you check out the anims and one little sit. What's the use of that? I would think if you're going to design something you would make it realistic. :(
Not all couches are like that.
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12-30-2008 04:22
From: Holocluck Henly
Yes but everybody's idea of high quality seems to be one person sitting SEDUCTIVELY on a couch.

guess it depends on the person =X
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eku Zhong
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12-30-2008 05:55
haha i have couches with one person lying seductively .. couches for 2 ppl and 3 ppl .. i even have one with ppl sitting on the arms of the couch to make 5 ppl..
as well as sofas with a bunch of sits AND a cuddle menu...

and so do a lot of other furniture makers.. youre not looking hard enough :D
Jacksonn Munro
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12-30-2008 06:33
You could add pillows that have a sit animations in them.. yes that would be more prims but if you really like the couch.....just a thought.
Ceera Murakami
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12-30-2008 06:39
I used to sell what I called a "Conversation couch". A nice small leather couch that had three pose balls on it for relaxed conversational animations. It also had two matching chairs, also leather upholstered and with either a male or female conversation animation.

They didn't sell all that well, even though I got complements on them. *shrugs* Probably couldn't compete with all the stuff out there that also offered sex pose options, whereas mine was strictly G-rated. Oh well... I still use them in my building projects on occasion, but it isn't worth the effort for me to sell them.

I will agree, however, that it is rather silly to sell a couch that only seats one person...
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12-30-2008 06:53
@ OP- you're just not shopping in the right places- I have several in inventory and none sit just one- there are cuddle ones and different gender sits and lays but none are just one person. And I do not have any sexual sofas- that's what the naughty rugs and bed are for ;)
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Oryx Tempel
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12-30-2008 08:17
My biggest pet peeve with furniture is the sheer SIZE of it all. So many of the pieces out there look like they were built for giants. Oh well. Shop on, friends, shop on. :)
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12-30-2008 08:40
Believe me I'm looking, I'm a SHOPPER, a discerning one. Also have to take into consideration the specific design and price, many variables. What I mean is, everything else could be just exactly what I'm looking for and then one lil sit, so frustrating.
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12-30-2008 08:43
Are you sure it only has 1 animation? the scripts and animations in furniture would be in individual prims of the item. If you are going into Edit and checking Contents.. you would only see the animation in the prime prim. There could be animations in the other prims.

That's how I make my furniture... Also... I'm not an amazon avatar and my furniture is not made for them either. When I started building furniture I set out to make to them fit the "average avie" because I could only find LARGE pieces as well. When I sit.. my feet touch the floor and everything :)
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12-30-2008 11:20
From: Claari Shepherd
Are you sure it only has 1 animation? the scripts and animations in furniture would be in individual prims of the item. If you are going into Edit and checking Contents.. you would only see the animation in the prime prim. There could be animations in the other prims.


This was my thought too. You can edit linked parts and look in each prim to see if there are more poses. Or, you should be able to target the various prims and choose sit. The animation in that prim will activate then (each seat on a couch for example).

Because I don't use poseballs, I worry that people will get this impression from some of my pieces. I try to include info about pose locations and features in the item description field, but if people don;t have the mouse over text enabled, they won't see it.
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Sommerland Starostin
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12-30-2008 11:44
From: Nimue Jewell
This was my thought too. You can edit linked parts and look in each prim to see if there are more poses. Or, you should be able to target the various prims and choose sit. The animation in that prim will activate then (each seat on a couch for example).

Because I don't use poseballs, I worry that people will get this impression from some of my pieces. I try to include info about pose locations and features in the item description field, but if people don;t have the mouse over text enabled, they won't see it.



No I'm pretty sure its one sit. But how do you do set mouse over text enabled?
Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-30-2008 11:49
is it mod? if so add more sits to it, either via poseballs or get the script (free in the library) to add them to the prims of the couch

if you do not know how to do this, ask someone to teach you, or take some classes
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12-30-2008 12:10
From: Sommerland Starostin
No I'm pretty sure its one sit. But how do you do set mouse over text enabled?


Go to the View menu>hover tips> choose show tips. Or you use Ctrl-Shift-T
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12-30-2008 12:11
As someone who makes couches with few sits, I can tell you my reason....I am great at making good looking couches and still learning about adding poses and animations. The texturing and making the stuff look good seems to come easy to me, but putting in those dang sits is a pain...lol. Try to remember that not all creators in SL have the same skill sets and capabilities. And keep checking back with them...they might improve their items as time goes one. You might also ask if you could purchase an item with mod perms so that you can add your own sits if that is someting you are good at.
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Phil Deakins
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12-30-2008 12:17
I'm wondering if the 1-sit couches that OP found have a sit anim in them at all, or just a sit target - or even neither of those. I make versions of couches with and without anims. The prices are different, of course, and the versions without anims just have a sit target.
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12-30-2008 12:20
I'm surprised that, given the availability of a freeware animation engine like MLPv2, people are still buying the furniture and the animations bundled together. Why not buy the nice piece of furniture one place, and the animations one wants somewhere else?
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12-30-2008 12:24
From: Phil Deakins
I'm wondering if the 1-sit couches that OP found have a sit anim in them at all, or just a sit target - or even neither of those. I make versions of couches with and without sit anims. The prices are different, of course, and the versions without anims just have a sit target.



It suddenly dawned on me who you are. I love your furniture. :) Matter of fact, time for a return trip. I had a problem with something once (my own fault, buying an item in the middle of some SL hijinks going on, shouldn't have been trying to do a transaction right at that moment) and never received it. I IM'd you and you delivered it to me so fast made my head spin. Kudos to an honest SL business person. :)
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12-30-2008 12:26
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It suddenly dawned on me who you are. I love your furniture. :) Matter of fact, time for a return trip. I had a problem with something once (my own fault, buying an item in the middle of some SL hijinks going on, shouldn't have been trying to do a transaction right at that moment) and never received it. I IM'd you and you delivered it to me so fast made my head spin. Kudos to an honest SL business person. :)
Well thank you, Treasure. I appreciate the comments :) I don't know how long it's been since you were in the store, but it may have changed quite a lot since then.
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01-03-2009 09:33
From: Sommerland Starostin
Is just dumb! Why not at least two or...dare I say it three? Why would anyone buy a sofa with one sit anim? What are these people thinking?? It's very disappointed at times, as you think you've found exactly the right thing and then you check out the anims and one little sit. What's the use of that? I would think if you're going to design something you would make it realistic. :(

The main reasons are that it takes time, talent, and (for most people) money to add poses to furniture, and there are so many different types of customer with different desires for furniture.

The reason someone would buy a sofa with one sit anim would be to add their own sits.
As mentioned above, if it's mod, you can add your own and bake them into the item. But even if it's not, you can add poseballs or invisible prims to add a number of seating options, just not linked in. (You can still pick them up as a group to rez later, or move them as a group, just takes a bit more SL skills -- and not much more.)

I sell a "jPose sofa cover" that you can set over a typical sofa, use its menu to make it invisible, and then you have a sofa with lots of options, though most not for casual conversation. ;)

More people should make things like this to add to furniture. However, it's hard to make a one-size-fits all solution to seating. I plan to be adding to my PG line, and there's a good chance I'll post it freebie. Don't hold your breath, though -- still have a few other items in the queue.