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Is this possible?

tala Hathaway
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Join date: 16 Feb 2007
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10-10-2007 16:38
i was just visiting a SIM and was asked by someone there to touch a black box ... no idea why they asked and i am far too naive and trusting to query ..so i did. Then they tell me they can find out who my alts/main character are by identifying my UUID.. Now is that all okay? And is that even possible?
Malachi Petunia
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Posts: 3,414
10-10-2007 16:47
Your avatar name and UUID are essentially interchangable, if someone has one they can get the other. There is nothing that you can do with one that can't be done with the other.

Given an avatar name *or* UUID tells no one anything at all about any of your alts should you have any. Someone was either ignorant or playing games with you.
Ricardo Harris
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10-10-2007 17:08
You shouldn't be following orders from strangers to begin with, especially of things you know nothing of.
FireEyes Fauna
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10-10-2007 17:08
There are also a number of ways they could have gotten your UUID without you having to touch the black box. They could have run a sensor for instance.

So repeating what Malachi said...either they were ignorant or playing games.
tala Hathaway
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thank you Richard for stating the obvious instead of offering help to my ?
10-10-2007 17:16
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Har Fairweather
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10-10-2007 17:30
From: tala Hathaway
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Sorry, Tala, but I think he gave you the best advice of anybody. There are a few - blessedly few, but they are there - really nasty people running around SL. Remember what your mother told you about men? Applies here.
tala Hathaway
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Join date: 16 Feb 2007
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10-10-2007 17:32
right, but i did agree that what i did was naive and foolish.. My question was not to confirm weather you all agree with me ..but if to find out ...


Is there a way to track alts and
what is a UUID
Oryx Tempel
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10-10-2007 17:50
Hi Tala,

There are several products out there which allow people to "spy" on avatars. They run the gamut from transmitting someone's chat to the "spy" to just determining whether someone is online or not.

The UUID is the Unique User Identifier... we all have one, and it can be used to pay that user, take money out of the user's account, or register the user in a location. It's not illegal to use a UUID, but like others have said, be careful who gets your UUID. :)
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Damanios Thetan
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Join date: 6 Mar 2004
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10-10-2007 17:58
A UUID (Universally Unique Identifier) is just that, a unique code to identity something.
In SL UUIDs are used for practically everything; objects, textures, sounds, animations, avies, etc. etc.
Their main function is technical; to provide a simple way to uniquely identify stuff on the SL grid, for interaction between servers, clients, sims, storing databases, fileservers etc.
UUIDs are randomly generated, so there is no real data stored in them. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUID for more info.

You avatar UUID is about as public as your avatar name. A simple sensor scan can already provide it, and it doesn't tell the person who acquires it anything more than your avatar name would. Luckily it's not possible to track people outside of the current sim they're in (a current exploit not taken into account), get account info, find out which alts they have or what they did last summer etc. from their UUID.

It's practically impossible to 'prevent' an object to acquire your UUID either, outside from staying in one spot in SL and not interacting with any item, so 'being careful' of scripts getting your UUID is kind of a hard feat to achieve.

Basically there is one thing an avie UUID allows you to do which just collecting an avatar name wouldn't. And that is have scripted objects give you stuff or send IMs to the avatar.
Both can be prevented by simply denying the gift (always wise if you don't know where it comes from), or muting (and possibly AR'ing the owner, in case of spam) the object sending the IMs.
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Walker Moore
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10-10-2007 18:13
The only way I think this could be used to detect alts is if it triggered a http event, and your avatar name and ipaddress then recorded in a database.

But erm .. your alt would have to click it too .. and that's not likely to happen now is it? There are other problems with this scenario too. Not everybody has a static ip address for example, but I suppose a suspected main and alt account using the same ISP would increase the odds a little.

Edit: I've just been informed that llHTTPRequest sends the IP address of the sim, not the IP address of the user. So forget everything I just said. Another theory bites the dust. :p
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Har Fairweather
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10-10-2007 18:18
Some scanners that track people do use some sort of exploit that allows them to stay in contact with the avatar long enough to pick up the location it is tp'ing to. If you suspect you have that problem, being prepared to tp to two or three locations in very quick succession (preferably random, so no-one can anticipate which locations) should be enough to shake a pursuer.

As for identifying alts, nah.

There are people who like to mess with people's minds, and they will try to rattle others with claims like that, for whatever perverse kick they get out of it. Had one visit another forum once who insinuated he had an SL attack that could not only crash your SL client, but permanently disable your computer as well. Also not true, but you should have seen the frisson of paranoia that went through that forum for a moment...
tala Hathaway
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thank you all :)
10-10-2007 18:26
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Ollj Oh
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03-25-2008 04:54
Sicne he needed you do touch a box to get your key he is not so smart.
and you can not get the link to someones alt accounts.
Auto Oh
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Join date: 16 May 2007
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03-25-2008 07:00
Walker Moore is partially correct.

The only real way to find alts is by tracking IP addresses, while it cant be done by HTTPRequest, it can be done with parcelMedia as the client connects to that directly.

Keep In mind, that even if they where to do that, both alts would have to play the media... and you may not even get that close. AOL used to only have limited connection to the net (I do not know if they still do) 100+ users would share as single IP, more then likely it was a proxy of a sort. I'm sure AOL isnt the only person to use such things.

So, you couldnt ever be 100% sure, you never know it could be there room mate or someone who lives in a building with shared internet.
Solomon Devoix
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03-25-2008 07:11
From: Ollj Oh
Sicne he needed you do touch a box to get your key he is not so smart.
and you can not get the link to someones alt accounts.

Necropost much?
Yosef Okelly
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Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 2,692
03-25-2008 08:54
Just grasping at straws, but it *might* be possible to find alts on the same account; in other other words different characters created with the same email address.

If I wanted to get someone's key (UUID) I would just look it up in search ... but that's just me.