Locked object deleted by alt - anyone else seen?
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Nika Talaj
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Join date: 2 Jan 2007
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01-24-2009 10:12
Last night an alt of mine was building in my skybox, and she deleted the floor of the box, which I had locked, with no warning msg from SL. It returned to my inventory, and when I rezzed it, it still showed as locked, and I had to unlock it to move it into place. It is a linked set of 4 20x20 megaprims.
This alt was part of the group that owns the land, but she did not use the "return" command. It disappeared when she hit the delete key for a set of prims, and I assume she had accidently selected it. She DOES have permission to edit my objects, but even the creator and owner of a prim gets a warning dialog when trying to delete a locked object. I tested it this morning (same alt, same buildbox) and it behaved as usual. Have not had any problem with sticky keys or errant interrupts on this PC.
Has anyone else seen this? I searched Jira and the forums, and saw no mention of it. .
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Weston Graves
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01-24-2009 10:59
I have not been successful at getting my alt to edit my objects for some reason even after giving permission, so I have not seen this. However, if my alt had done this I would have to ban him.
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Wulfric Chevalier
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01-24-2009 11:16
I've not seen what you're describing Nika, but I'm reasonably sure that I've seen things that were locked, unlocking themselves, which would lead to the same effect. I have a platform for building on, made of 4 sections each of 4 20x20s. I KNOW all 4 sections were locked a couple of weeks ago, because I was doing a lot of work up there and I don't remember unlocking them and can't think why I would have done. Yesterday my partner was able to alter the texture on 3 of them, only the 4th was locked.
So I'm not certain (it's always possible I did unlock them for some reason), but I have a strong suspicion locked prims may not be staying locked the way they should.
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CarlCorey Colman
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01-24-2009 11:25
From: Weston Graves I have not been successful at getting my alt to edit my objects for some reason even after giving permission, so I have not seen this. However, if my alt had done this I would have to ban him. So I'm not the only one! My alt has permission to edit my objects as well and has never actually been able to do it.
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LittleMe Jewell
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01-24-2009 11:57
I can delete objects my alt owns and has locked and visa-versa (and actually think I have always been able to since we are both "owners" on the land) - however, I have always gotten the warning box. And yes, when I re-rez the object, it still shows as locked. I cannot remember if it is because we can edit each others objects or because we are both owners of the group. I even tested this out with another alt once, but now I cannot remember the results.
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say Moo
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01-24-2009 13:40
There is a misunderstanding in the term locking an object (linked or not)
Locking an object, doesn't prevent you or other capable of, deletion/returning of the locked object.
What locking does is:
lock it according to position, textures, and settings. This is handy, if you work on a detailed multiprim object, and have a part done, but don't want to have the risk of demolish that ready piece by accident. (selection the wrong prim e.g. or texture surface)
nothing more, nothing less. it's a building tool (hence it's only selectable in the BUILD menu.. )
hope this clarifies..
btw. you speak about your ALT, as if you don't use it yourself, but someone else does.. if that's the case, i think you can't speak of an alt that you own.. but a colloborative account *used by you and friends together*
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Nika Talaj
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01-24-2009 13:47
Hi, say. Perhaps I didn't make the issue clear -- locking is supposed to provide a warning whenever one attempts to delete a locked object. That is, a warning dialog comes up that asks whether you really mean to delete the object, requiring a click to proceed. In this instance, the warning box did not come up.
Not sure what you mean by your statement about my alt, but anyway, she is a private account, being used in this instance at the same time as the Nika account (to check permissions and script functions).
Collaborative accounts are more-or-less frowned on by the TOS, though of course used extensively by both families and businesses. .
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say Moo
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01-24-2009 13:54
From: Nika Talaj Hi, say. Perhaps I didn't make the issue clear -- locking is supposed to provide a warning whenever one attempts to delete a locked object. That is, a warning dialog comes up that asks whether you really mean to delete the object, requiring a click to proceed. In this instance, the warning box did not come up. Not sure what you mean by your statement about my alt, but anyway, she is a private account, being used in this instance at the same time as the Nika account (to check permissions and script functions). Collaborative accounts are more-or-less frowned on by the TOS, though of course used extensively by both families and businesses. . ok.. hehe.. don't remember the dialog box, i haven't used the lock option for ages.. what i ment with my statement about your alt.. is that you talk in "she" while it's you. It confused me a bit. Would have expected more like: When I logged in with my alt account, i accidentely deleted a locked prim. Normaly i would get a 'are you sure' dialog box that only comes up with locked prims.. etc etc but the "she" in every sentence made me confused as to where YOU or someone else using that account.. doesn't matter though... neglect my clarification post, it's not of use to you.. i misunderstood. 
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LittleMe Jewell
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01-24-2009 15:10
I actually just went and tested this. If I locked an object, my alt (with mod rights on my objects, but not return ability on the land) did not get the Delete option at all and when she tried to Return it, she got a permission message, which was expected. I gave her mod rights on my objects and she still did not get a Delete option for it while it was locked, but this time she could Return it, with the normal Return warning box that always comes up on returning objects.
I've had some other flaky stuff related to editing objects going on, so definitely do not take the above to mean much.
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Cristalle Karami
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01-24-2009 16:03
I remember the dialog box, but perhaps if you have all popups disabled, you won't see that.
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Phil Deakins
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01-24-2009 16:23
Is locking an object supposed to prevent it from being deleted? I wouldn't have thought it would.
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Nika Talaj
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01-24-2009 16:25
No it doesn't prevent deletion, it just provides a warning and prompt when you delete the object - an opportunity to decide not to do that. A good thing for the floors of buildboxes! .
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