Prim Skirt/Dress Problem?

I've been wondering why, when I buy a prim dress or skirt it will look fine when I'm standing, but when I walk in it or sit down my legs will go through the skirt. Is there a way to fix this? I'm sorry if this has been posted about before. I checked and couldn't find anything.

there is a script you can insert in to the skirt prims to make it a "smart skirt". but i am not inworld to give it to you.

hopefully someone will be along shortly to cut/paste the script, and also tell you how to use it.

good luck.

Here's a JIRA issue that I found for this: Add the ability to de-select phantom for flexi-prims...
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-2787

If anyone finds a better issue, can you post it here?

Hi, Calliope, welcome to the forums! The reason why this happens is because any skirt that moves is made of flexi panels. Unfortunately, if you make the panels flexible enough so that they move prettily when you walk or dance, they hang straight down when you sit. And, as Oryx implies, because they are also usually phantom prims, they don't collide enough with your body to rest on top of your lap - they don't even notice your body is there.

The smart skirt script that I'm familiar with is basically an automatic prim positioner that lets you edit your skirt by hand ONCE into a good position for sitting, and then remembers the prim positions and propertis, and replays them when you sit. Here's one on SLX:

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=646260

There is a more expensive version of the script with copy/trans positions, so you can sell smart skirts.
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Oooh..this might also stop our boobs eating our hair! (running over to add my bit....)

Attachments are always phantom. I don't see that changing anytime soon. I think the only solution is the smart skirt or using the system skirt with really small hips and buttafuoco.

Thank you for the advice.

I've tried Smart Skirt... not a big fan of it. To me, prims arching unnaturally over my knees looks worse than having them drop straight through me. Additionally, it's a pain for those of us using AOs that contain more than one sit. I don't really see a workable solution unless the above-mentioned JIRA issue gets resolved.

I haven't done any model-making w/in SL, but I have in the 3D art world.

The solution to this is dynamic cloth. But that solution is not real-time viable on today's hardware and networks.

Its sounds like flexxi is a limited version of dynamic cloth - ie: it is dynamic, but without collision detection, so it goes through things.

If you examine, on the low-cost end, Poser, you can see what Dynamic cloth is. For a pre-rendered animation you can have an object move perfectly around the things next to it, fold, stretch, and so on, as your animation plays out. Wind, gravity, and so on can be set, as well as just how flexible the shape of the object is (will a skirt retain its folds, or just fall, when a figure is standing, etc...)

- On a pre-rendered animation, using this can make a 10 minute render take 10-days...
- in a rel-time, interactive environment, it is amazing enough that SL can do flexxi... asking it to do true dynamics is just beyond the capabilities of most consumer's hardware and internet bandwidth limits.

"runs to vote" Ohh yeah!!!!!! This would be the biggest improvment in SL history!

Arcady Yue: I don't know anything about 3D model-making, so thank you for putting things into perspective. I guess I could be hoping for too much.

Unfortunately that wouldn't have any effect on this, because your avatar is not physical... or even present in the sim. All the sim sees where you see the avatar is kind of an egg.

Don't hold your breath for this, however. Doing real-time "cloth physics" like that requires an *insane* amount of computational power, and flexis are already lag monster as it is. (We *are* seeing limited versions of it in high-end games, so it's not *entirely* unrealistic to do realtime, but it's not likely to make its way into SL's generic building system any time soon).

It would have to be a client-side effect. Doing it serverside and then pushing the resulting information to the client is just not viable, so even if flexis *could* have cloth physics and react to other models, they would still be "phantom" in the sense that the server wouldn't track their actual position.

It'd still be cool. Oh well.

From reading the above, I was starting to wonder if I had gotten a bad Smart Skirt outfit or something awhile back. I won a dress that came with two prim skirts - one with the Smart Skirt script and one without. Iirc, it was recommended to not wear the Smart Skirt one while dancing or on pose balls, etc.

Like you said, even sitting it still didn't look right so I just ditched it.

This is why I've stayed with system skirts and dresses ever since I came to SL.

System and prim types both have advantages and disadvantages but system skirts can be made to work quite well. I use a modified version of my shape and set the skirts to the tightest fit - then they look quite sleek and consistent with my 'normal' shape in jeans.

My problem with prim skirts is that when dancing they either look like a bucket (single prim) or all the bits come apart like you're wearing a collection of loose streamers.

I have played about with making prim skirts where sections are attached to left and right hips instead of all as one object attached to pelvis. But the result looked more like culottes than a skirt.

I like the sleek look in dresses rather than "poofy" myself and have some I purchased that look very nice.



LOL, so true. And especially with lag, I think at times I would have made a nice Maypole.