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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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07-30-2009 16:39
So a bit more than a year ago I posted about th' damage to Wild West Town, a legacy build in Oak Grove. That thread also led to posting about other damaged legacy content. That is, stuff that was made by Residents as part of "community Projects" in the earliest days of SL, or old LL-made infrastructure, or even some Mole builds of today

Today I went back through all the JIRAs and support tickets, an reflected a bit on all of these. I'll include some of the JIRAs to outstanding stuff here, too, an would love to hear about others I might have missed.

First off, a lot of things have been fixed. Many of them were relatively simple fixes, or things that got fixed over the course of other LL projects. Some got worked on through some pushes and prods. Each of the issues, even when they have not yet been solved, have been at least examined by a Linden or two, even if it is simply to say "Aw, Geeze, I don't know what we can do to fix this one."

I am proud to note that you can again practice archery in Morris, and the original signs have been located and replaced at that site. Likewise at the old "Camp Linden" in De Haro. Games are working again in Ahern. Much of the park in Shermerville NW is usable again. You can drive over the bridge in Mimas without worrying about the bridge giving way, and will not fall through the gap at the dam in Ganeymede. Chalet Linden is no longer a victim of prim drift, and the ski runs in both Wengen and Voss are operable. Oh, and the Maze in Imaginario works like it did in preview.

The SLRR remains down, as does the Dore to Luna trolley, but the SLRR is back in development and waiting behind a ferryboat in the Blake Sea and a monorail in Zindra. Some of the infohubs that were missing their "I" on the map now have them (Hi Mahulu and Violet!) and while others do not, it is likely they're being phased out (Sorry Periwinkle and Luna!).

The ones still outstanding (and which I'd love to see some more votes on, if you feel so inclined) include...

The Jessie Wall:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1911
Site of the War in Jessie. 2/3rds of this wall are gone, lost to history, presumably. It is likely, however, that the missing parts could be replicated from the still extant parts.

Orientation Station in the Castle, aka Yamato town, Shangri-La
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2398
A community build from way back, saved by Residents before it could be deleted was back in the middle part of this decade. The orientation parts were recently worked over, which is a huge plus. Nevertheless, parts of the build remain damaged. That said, its not a hard fix. Still a good place to send the greenest of noobs for a brush up.

Mount G'al
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1139
Where you sacrifice noobs in order to please G'al and keep the grid happy. Unfortunately it's not lethal, and sending noobs into the volcano and Ichelus would be the better bet for now. Still, this volcano could be as big and bad as the Ichelus one with just a bit of work.

Wild West Town:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1073
Another Community build. Sadly, much is likely unfixable. Both the saloon and telegraphic office are gone, and prim drift has affected the theater, sheriff's office and others. might be worth a visit, if just to see what Second Life once was.

there are others as well, from prim rot in Ahern to unworkable playground equipment in Bay City - Imaginario, but those are somewhat lesser to the damage to the above legacy works.

Oh, two more notes: I think the *bigger* fixes are what we all want. Smoother border crossings, less crashes, no borked logins. None of the above fixes are ones that take away from the developers work, and fall under the Linden Department of Public Works' hands.

That said, the above is part of our history in Second Life, and if anything, it would be nice preserve it rather than losing what little of Second Life's earlier days still remain.

Oh yes, the question. Any other places like the above that are showing some damage and need a helping hand?
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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Join date: 30 May 2007
Posts: 661
07-30-2009 17:15
the multisim trolley that truns through Kissling and a few others is broken/unfixed these days. i'd discovered it while finding the only place (at least at that time) that carried Monty Python items. i think, though i'm not certain, that the reason it's broken is some of the land along its stops has changed hands and the new people may have taken out the "tracks" for it. i may be wrong, though... i know that one of the stops was a coffee bar type place, and i've searched all the surrounding sims trying to find it but haven't. that was how i found out the trolley wasn't working right (because i "KNEW" it would take me there, rather than suddenly disappearing out from under me and hurling me into the SLub strata...)
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
07-30-2009 17:26
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
the multisim trolley that truns through Kissling and a few others is broken/unfixed these days. i'd discovered it while finding the only place (at least at that time) that carried Monty Python items. i think, though i'm not certain, that the reason it's broken is some of the land along its stops has changed hands and the new people may have taken out the "tracks" for it. i may be wrong, though... i know that one of the stops was a coffee bar type place, and i've searched all the surrounding sims trying to find it but haven't. that was how i found out the trolley wasn't working right (because i "KNEW" it would take me there, rather than suddenly disappearing out from under me and hurling me into the SLub strata...)


Ah, the old infohub shuttle. I think that's owned and operated by a Resident, not Lindens. Might want to check with the Nomads on that. I'll poke about too.
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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Join date: 30 May 2007
Posts: 661
07-30-2009 17:30
you're right, it is Nomads. semi-off-topic in the first reply!
though not a Linden piece, i think the age still makes it a heritage piece.
peace.
:D
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
07-30-2009 17:39
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
you're right, it is Nomads. semi-off-topic in the first reply!
though not a Linden piece, i think the age still makes it a heritage piece.
peace.
:D


Agreed. A total throwback to the times when you needed something like the "telephopper" to get around the grid.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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07-30-2009 19:36
Does this include the Pompano volcano???
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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07-30-2009 19:46
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Does this include the Pompano volcano???


It would indeed! An thanks! I do need to stop over there.
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Jannae Karas
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Join date: 10 Mar 2007
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07-30-2009 21:14
Return the lamps to the Temple of the Moth in Iris.
Otherwise the world will be ending very soon.



For those interested in preserving the historical areas of the mainland, join the SL Public Land Preserve Group.
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
07-30-2009 22:09
From: Jannae Karas
Return the lamps to the Temple of the Moth in Iris.
Otherwise the world will be ending very soon.

For those interested in preserving the historical areas of the mainland, join the SL Public Land Preserve Group.


I pushed for that one, but the head of the preserve group said not to bother trying to get the lamps back. I may try again. ;-)
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spinster Voom
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07-31-2009 00:35
From: Marianne McCann


The Jessie Wall:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1911
Site of the War in Jessie. 2/3rds of this wall are gone, lost to history, presumably. It is likely, however, that the missing parts could be replicated from the still extant parts.


Hi Mari, I came across your jira last night and voted. I'm really glad you brought this up as it gives me an excuse to tell everybody that I just bought land in Jessie :D



To the right, you can see the remains of the Jessie Wall ... does anybody have any pics of it in its entirety? Also, on the far right in the distance, you can see (parts of) Steller Sunshine's beanstalk, which is holding up very well in spite of several years of being jumped all over by avatars.
From: Jannae Karas
For those interested in preserving the historical areas of the mainland, join the SL Public Land Preserve Group.
Thanks Jannae, I'll look them up.
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
07-31-2009 01:07
From: Jannae Karas
Return the lamps to the Temple of the Moth in Iris.
Otherwise the world will be ending very soon.


I did have a JIRA out on that before. I may have to try again on that one. Would love to see those back.

From: someone
For those interested in preserving the historical areas of the mainland, join the SL Public Land Preserve Group.


I strongly doubt I'd be welcome there, given some recent events, but thanks nonetheless. :-)

From: spinster Voom
Hi Mari, I came across your jira last night and voted. I'm really glad you brought this up as it gives me an excuse to tell everybody that I just bought land in Jessie :D


Congrats on the new land! I'll have ot see if I can't hunt up a photo or two. There is one that doesn't show much at http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2003/07/war_of_the_jess.html - a great historical article, too.

Sadly, the page I figured might be of help is long gone. All I could find was it in the old wayback machine, but with none of its photos
http://web.archive.org/web/20080101033946/sl.dreamhost.com/sl_march_2004/
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
07-31-2009 01:38
Found some more on Jessie with a bit of digging...

This ( http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2006/04/new_world_slurl_2.html ) seems to imply that the wall has been largely missing as far back as 2006.

Here it is in June 2006 - http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=78724 - but not the best view.

Also, there's this one, which seems to be the best I've found. It still is not much.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carabino/278206549/
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