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In the future,do I need age verification?

annna Deed
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07-22-2009 14:40
I saw many people,who,for a job want age varification,so i really want to know.And many places are mature,i personally didn't have any problem but in the future....
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Ceka Cianci
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07-22-2009 14:42
for places in the future you will need age verification if your looking for work on lands that will be rated as adult..
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EF Klaar
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07-22-2009 15:24
You will need to be age verified to enter places where the owner has set age verification as a requirement to enter. Linden Labs will require owners of land hosting publicly accessible adult content to set age verification requirements. You will need to be account verified to enter places rated as adult, even if they do not host any adult content.
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07-22-2009 15:33
Oh god, I am so conflicted.

Anyone who uses the "age verification" parcel or estate restrictions is a prat or a gull. They are not required by LL, and do not satisfy the requirements that LL DOES impose.
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EF Klaar
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07-22-2009 15:47
From: Argent Stonecutter
They are not required by LL
In that case anna will not need to be age verified unless she wants to enter land where the owner has set age verification as a requirement to enter.
Ceka Cianci
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07-22-2009 15:48
isn't it the same as the NPIOF option that estate owners have? is that what they have to check or is it just the rating that sets it now on estates?
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07-22-2009 15:55
From: Ceka Cianci
isn't it the same as the NPIOF option that estate owners have?
The individual NPIOF and Age-verification options are not useful. Either one prevents people who are "adult verified" under the new rules from entering. The only way to effectively and accurately conform to the new rules is by use of the adult region rating.
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07-22-2009 15:56
From: EF Klaar
In that case anna will not need to be age verified unless she wants to enter land where the owner has set age verification as a requirement to enter.
And any landowner who does that is a prat.
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LittleMe Jewell
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07-22-2009 16:02
From: Ceka Cianci
for places in the future you will need age verification if your looking for work on lands that will be rated as adult..
This is not totally true.

1) If the land is flagged as Adult (vs PG or Mature), you must be *adult verified* which means either Age Verification OR Payment Info On File. Best I can tell, this will be sims on Zindra and private estates flagged as such, but not other mainland.

2) If the land/parcel has set the Age Verification flag, then only Age Verification will get you in -- and even that is still sometimes broke.

3) If the land/parcel has set the Payment Info Required flag, then only Payment Info On File will get you in.

Land can be flagged PG or Mature and still have either of the last two settings or even both of them -- via the Access tab in the About Land.

Though I still have not quite figured out what the 'Mature Content' flag on the Options tag controls.
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07-22-2009 16:11
From: LittleMe Jewell
Though I still have not quite figured out what the 'Mature Content' flag on the Options tag controls.
Visibility in search?
Ceka Cianci
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07-22-2009 16:13
From: LittleMe Jewell
This is not totally true.

1) If the land is flagged as Adult (vs PG or Mature), you must be *adult verified* which means either Age Verification OR Payment Info On File. Best I can tell, this will be sims on Zindra and private estates flagged as such, but not other mainland.

2) If the land/parcel has set the Age Verification flag, then only Age Verification will get you in -- and even that is still sometimes broke.

3) If the land/parcel has set the Payment Info Required flag, then only Payment Info On File will get you in.

Land can be flagged PG or Mature and still have either of the last two settings or even both of them -- via the Access tab in the About Land.

Though I still have not quite figured out what the 'Mature Content' flag on the Options tag controls.

I always saw it as if you wanted to go onto adult rated lands you will need to be age verified..Payment info on file is also age verification..NPIOF need to verify.
i'm not sure that has changed..
so how is what i said not true ?
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07-22-2009 17:51
From: Ceka Cianci
I always saw it as if you wanted to go onto adult rated lands you will need to be age verified..Payment info on file is also age verification..NPIOF need to verify.
i'm not sure that has changed..
so how is what i said not true ?
LL has specifically said that "payment info on file" or going thru the Aristotle Age Verification process makes you "Adult" verified but that is not the same as "Age" verified as far as parcel flaggings are concerned.

It is a matter of terminology and LL is very explicit about it -- Payment Info On File does not make you Age Verified, only Adult Verified. Only the Aristotle verification will give you the "age verified" mark and that absolutely is required to get into any parcel that has checked that box on the Access tab -- and those parcels can be any mainland or estate parcel, not just the Adult ones.

Basically, if you go thru the Aristotle verification process, you are Age verified and that will automatically make you also Adult verified. However, if you simply put Payment Info on File, that will make you Adult verified but not Age verified. If they would just do away with those stupid checkboxes on the Access tab for the parcels, we would not have the confusion or need to worry about the distinction.
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07-22-2009 18:24
From: LittleMe Jewell
If they would just do away with those stupid checkboxes on the Access tab for the parcels, we would not have the confusion or need to worry about the distinction.
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07-22-2009 18:34
From: LittleMe Jewell
LL has specifically said that "payment info on file" or going thru the Aristotle Age Verification process makes you "Adult" verified but that is not the same as "Age" verified as far as parcel flaggings are concerned.

It is a matter of terminology and LL is very explicit about it -- Payment Info On File does not make you Age Verified, only Adult Verified. Only the Aristotle verification will give you the "age verified" mark and that absolutely is required to get into any parcel that has checked that box on the Access tab -- and those parcels can be any mainland or estate parcel, not just the Adult ones.

Basically, if you go thru the Aristotle verification process, you are Age verified and that will automatically make you also Adult verified. However, if you simply put Payment Info on File, that will make you Adult verified but not Age verified. If they would just do away with those stupid checkboxes on the Access tab for the parcels, we would not have the confusion or need to worry about the distinction.
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ok i see where i made my mistake now..I have been using the term age verified instead of adult..my meanings have been adult but still programmed with the old term age verified..bleh
why do they have to have two ways when only one is enough..just get rid of the age one if it does not work anyways.you know? it only adds to confusion..
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07-23-2009 08:50
The best way to think of the new rules is "anonymous accounts cannot access adult stuff".

There are two ways to not be anonymous: Give Linden Lab some ID info (the age verification page), or link to a money source (paypal or credit card payment info).

Verifying your account, then activating the adult settings in the software will let you access *map regions* that are rated adult and *search checkboxes* for adult places. Currently about 2% of the grid is adult rated map regions.

Individual parcels may be set to require either method or both to get in, so there are 5 possible situations to encounter:

(1) Mature or PG land, neither parcel setting active: about 95% of the grid ( anyone can enter)
(2) Adult land, neither parcel setting active: about 2 % of the grid (EITHER age OR payment info will let you in)
(3) Adult, Mature or PG land, age verify parcel setting on: rare (age verify required)
(4) Adult, Mature, or PG land, payment info parcel setting on: rare (payment info required)
(5) Adult, Mature, or PG land, both age and payment parcel settings on: rare (BOTH age AND payment info required to enter)
(4) Adult land, age verify parcel setting on
June Oh
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07-23-2009 15:32
I'm confused sorry.
I'm an adult trust me. I have made payment to get L$ but not a Premium member.
So I'm verified as an adult I take it? Adult in UK being 18+.
Why exact age to be verified is it an American thing for Americans I wonder.
Any way been in what I think are adult areas of SL and they say Mature, as a contrast to saying PG, not seen any places labelled Adult.
If I did come across an area marked Adult would I get in?
If I not quaulitfy are adult areas being hidden from me?
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07-23-2009 15:43
The "age verify" thing started a couple of years ago when LL got scared about some possible legislation that might get passed in the US. Even though the verification thru their third party affiliate does not work for many people, LL never dropped it.

When they decided to totally separate out what they consider to be true Adult content (something apparently more risque or violent than normal 'mature' stuff), they decided that "Adult Verified" would include anyone that had gone thru the Age Verification, but would also include anyone that just wanted to supply payment info.

Since you have given LL payment info for L$ purchases, you are considered Adult Verified and will be able to access Adult content via physical location or search.

Note, however, that any parcel (PG, Marture, or Adult) could also set the flag that only allows age verified accounts in -- and in those cases you can only get in if you have gone thru the Aristotle Age Verification process.
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07-23-2009 18:01
From: annna Deed
I saw many people,who,for a job want age varification,so i really want to know.And many places are mature,i personally didn't have any problem but in the future....


On Zindra, yes (or payment information on file, like credit cards or paypal.)

On some private lands, yes. (This is the owner's choice.)

For SL in general, no.

Of course that rule could change tomorrow.

There are MANY jobs you can get which do not require age verification - you must be applying for 'adult' types of jobs. Try clothing shops. Be a greeter or a model.

From: Ceka Cianci
Payment info on file is also age verification..


LL calls that account verification. A slim difference in practical terms usually, but not in legal terms.
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07-23-2009 18:26
From: EF Klaar
You will need to be age verified to enter places where the owner has set age verification as a requirement to enter. Linden Labs will require owners of land hosting publicly accessible adult content to set age verification requirements. You will need to be account verified to enter places rated as adult, even if they do not host any adult content.

Wow I see these owners going belly up. Cold day in hell when I age verify to play a game.
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07-23-2009 18:34
Remember 'age verified' and 'account verified' are 2 different things.

"Age verify" is a link here at this website. You supply certain real life data and it checks the validity.

"Account verify" means your account has some real life payment information, so they can find you if you do something extremely bad (my own interp.)

It's two different things and two different land settings, AND two different legal meanings should something ever go to court.

It's a corporation covering its backside a bit, is what it is, to keep up with possible future legislation.

My advice to annna would be to simply look elsewhere for a job. And to answer her other question it is not necessary to age verify for regular mainland SL, unless a private land owner sets their land that way.
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