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Land size?

Sheraka Sirnah
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Join date: 3 Aug 2008
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11-01-2008 05:50
Dear All

I know that mainland regions are about 65.000 square meters. I also know the amount of prims on private estates and on open land sims.

My question is: What is the difference in actual size in square meters if any? The reason I am asking is we want to change from our open land sim (rented from neigbour all gorean style) to either a full sim with full prims or to two open land SIMS. Which one the two would provide more SPACE (not prims).

I did read on the land shop section that you can devide a full sim into 4 open land sims - does that mean a full SIM is as big in size as four open land sims?

Space is important in Gorean regions hence the question.

any ideas?

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Wulfric Chevalier
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11-01-2008 05:54
All sims are 65536 sq m.

Converting an island into 4 Os sims gets you 4 times the land, but the same number of prims.
Claari Shepherd
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11-01-2008 12:11
As Wulfric stated all SIMs are the same size in meters (65,536) so 2 Open Space SIMs would give you more Space. If you convert to a full SIM you would have the same amount of space but with 15,000 prims instead of 3750 per Open Space.
Sindy Tsure
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11-01-2008 12:19
From: Claari Shepherd
As Wulfric stated all SIMs are the same size in meters (65,536) so 2 Open Space SIMs would give you more Space. If you convert to a full SIM you would have the same amount of space but with 15,000 prims instead of 3750 per Open Space.

But openspace sims run 4 per cpu core intstead of 1 per cpu core - it's not just about prims..

I think, but do not know, that all SL sims are the exact same source code but with different config files. A sim is a sim is a sim but how they config it determines if it's an openspace or a full sim. Or mainland or private estate or etc, etc..
Ceera Murakami
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11-01-2008 13:17
From: Wulfric Chevalier
All sims are 65536 sq m.

Converting an island into 4 Os sims gets you 4 times the land, but the same number of prims.
However, effective January 1st, those 4 OpenSpaces sims will cost you a total of $500 USD per month to maintain (4 x $125 per month), as compared to $295 USD per month for one normal full-prim sim. So ask yourself... is 4X the land area (space to move around in) and poorer overall performance (more lag) worth an extra $205 USD per month to you? Most people would say "H*** no!". But maybe, for an RP group that needs space to move around in for their RP's, having as much room as 4 normal sims for less than the cost of 2 normal sims might be worth it.
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Tali Rosca
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11-01-2008 13:19
I'd certainly advice you to hold off your purchase a little until the current controversy over openspaces has been settled. (In case you haven't heard, people are up in arms over the sudden two-thirds increase in price for openspaces).

And pay attention to Sindy's point about it not only being prim limit, but processing power as well. -This is the reason for the controversy, since some have been running the openspaces harder than that, leading LL to suddenly believe that is their "true" product which everybody must pay for. It's almost certain that there *will* be changes; either a better enforcement of the limits, or a pretty brutal price increase.
Elgyfu Wishbringer
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11-02-2008 17:39
Also note that you can't buy any Open Space sims unless you already own at least one full prim island anyway.
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Dante Tucker
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11-02-2008 18:14
From: Sindy Tsure
I think, but do not know, that all SL sims are the exact same source code but with different config files. A sim is a sim is a sim but how they config it determines if it's an openspace or a full sim. Or mainland or private estate or etc, etc..


Thats exactly right, but, they don't even have config files! All sim servers are exactly alike in every way.

When a sim starts up it queries a central database for availible regions to host. The database would reply for example "Ahern is offline, you can host ahern." At this point the sim downloads all of ahern's data into ram, everything that makes the sim ahern.

Using this system LL can deploy more server hardware faster, without having to modify the computers themselves.

Also it provides redundancy, if the computer your sim is running on catches on fire. No worries, the next server to come online will be assigned your region!

This is also why your sim will be running on a different host each time it restarts.
Sindy Tsure
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11-02-2008 18:32
TY. I assume the server class uses that process, too.. Yes?

/me was thinking move about openspace vs full sims - that they were actually the same source code but config'ed a little differently. Do they also use that same process? Seems like they would but I've read that converting between full/openspace nukes the simstate so.. maybe not..
Cristalle Karami
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11-02-2008 21:03
From: Ceera Murakami
However, effective January 1st, those 4 OpenSpaces sims will cost you a total of $500 USD per month to maintain (4 x $125 per month), as compared to $295 USD per month for one normal full-prim sim. So ask yourself... is 4X the land area (space to move around in) and poorer overall performance (more lag) worth an extra $205 USD per month to you? Most people would say "H*** no!". But maybe, for an RP group that needs space to move around in for their RP's, having as much room as 4 normal sims for less than the cost of 2 normal sims might be worth it.

I would heartily agree with this position. Perhaps if LL improves performance by dropping the amount of sims per core to 3, we would see the performance increase that makes this more worth the outlay.
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