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08-31-2009 13:42

Transcript up at

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for those that are interested

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08-31-2009 14:04

Anything good in there?

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Tristin Mikazuki

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08-31-2009 14:07

Is there ever? lol

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08-31-2009 15:06

There was pretty much nothing new said. Blondin will mention that people would like to see Zindra changed back to mature but he doesn't believe that will meet a positive response, nor do I.

This whole fiasco just trundles on and on.

Dakota Tebaldi

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08-31-2009 15:54

Back to mature from what? And was it ever mature to begin with? I thought it was always adult. What's this about?

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08-31-2009 15:58

From: Dakota Tebaldi

Back to mature from what? And was it ever mature to begin with? I thought it was always adult. What's this about?

People want it set back to mature because adult activity is still allowed on mature sims. You're probably right, it was probably always adult but folks are complaining about low traffic and not being found in search whilst other adult business carries on merrily on mature land.

Brenda Connolly

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08-31-2009 15:59

From: Ciaran Laval

People want it set back to mature because adult activity is still allowed on mature sims. You're probably right, it was probably always adult but folks are complaining about low traffic and not being found in search whilst other adult business carries on merrily on mature land.

In essence, do away with the Adult category? Wouldn't that be a pisser, after all the hue and cry of the past few months, to just scrap it?

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Ciaran Laval

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08-31-2009 16:00

From: Brenda Connolly

In essence, do away with the Adult category?

Well I would but no, they want everyone running an adult business to be in the adult category and until such times as LL enforce their rules, they want to be competing with the same customer base, so they want Zindra set to mature.

Darkness Anubis

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08-31-2009 16:03

well they have 2 choices that make sense and a third that will probably be what happens

Make sense
1. go back to the old system and scrap the whole adult thing
2. enforce the rule on the mainland

likely to happen
3. blithely go on as they are already and hue and cry from the residents be darned

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08-31-2009 16:07

From: Darkness Anubis

well they have 2 choices that make sense and a third that will probably be what happens

Make sense
1. go back to the old system and scrap the whole adult thing
2. enforce the rule on the mainland

likely to happen
3. blithely go on as they are already and hue and cry from the residents be darned

To right!
Number 3 is whats gona happen all of the chats so far pretty much show they dont want to listen... just look like they are.. even tho everyone knows they arent lol

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08-31-2009 16:20

From: Darkness Anubis

well they have 2 choices that make sense and a third that will probably be what happens

Make sense
1. go back to the old system and scrap the whole adult thing
2. enforce the rule on the mainland

likely to happen
3. blithely go on as they are already and hue and cry from the residents be darned

Actually add to number three, "Ask the residents to police and report the infractions on mature land," and I think we'll see the closest answer. [sarcasm] I mean it worked really great for all their other bans, after all.. [/sarcasm]

LL needs to stop giving the residents the "official" means to harass/spy on/witch each other.

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08-31-2009 18:56

I do mean this in a constructive way, though I know it probably won't sound like it, but the participants seem to have made it really easy for Blondin to avoid answering questions, and to cherry-pick the ones he did answer, by going on about their own pet concerns - or the attractiveness of each other's outfits - with little attention to the wider picture.

Given the nature of SL, I guess it'd be impossible to put together a short list of the really inportant questions before the meeting, for one voice at a time to ask them, and for everybody to keep quiet and wait for an answer: no possibility then of him using the excuse that he's too busy reading the questions to have time to answer any of them.

Amity Slade

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08-31-2009 19:17

Yet another example of Linden Lab's combination of rules and enforcement resulting in punishing the honest and rewarding the dishonest.

Blondin Linden Zindra OH
Lord Sullivan DTC at all times :) Join date: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,870	08-31-2009 13:42 Transcript up at http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Zindra_Alliance_-_Blondin_Linden_Meeting_Transcript:_29-08-2009 for those that are interested _____________________ Independent Shopping for Second Life residents from established and new merchants. http://slapt.me slapt.me - In-World HQ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Bastet/123/118/26
Meade Paravane Hedgehog Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4,845	08-31-2009 14:04 Anything good in there? _____________________ Tired of shouting clubs and lucky chairs? Vote for llParcelSay!!! - Go here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 - If you see "if you were logged in.." on the left, click it and log in - Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
Tristin Mikazuki Sarah Palin ROCKS! Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,012	08-31-2009 14:07 Is there ever? lol _____________________
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	08-31-2009 15:06 There was pretty much nothing new said. Blondin will mention that people would like to see Zindra changed back to mature but he doesn't believe that will meet a positive response, nor do I. This whole fiasco just trundles on and on.
Dakota Tebaldi Voodoo Child Join date: 6 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,873	08-31-2009 15:54 Back to mature from what? And was it ever mature to begin with? I thought it was always adult. What's this about? _____________________ "...Dakota will grow up to be very scary... but in a HOT and desireable kind of way." - 3Ring Binder "I really do think it's a pity he didnt "age" himself to 18." - Jig Chippewa
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	08-31-2009 15:58 From: Dakota Tebaldi Back to mature from what? And was it ever mature to begin with? I thought it was always adult. What's this about? People want it set back to mature because adult activity is still allowed on mature sims. You're probably right, it was probably always adult but folks are complaining about low traffic and not being found in search whilst other adult business carries on merrily on mature land.
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	08-31-2009 15:59 From: Ciaran Laval People want it set back to mature because adult activity is still allowed on mature sims. You're probably right, it was probably always adult but folks are complaining about low traffic and not being found in search whilst other adult business carries on merrily on mature land. In essence, do away with the Adult category? Wouldn't that be a pisser, after all the hue and cry of the past few months, to just scrap it? _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	08-31-2009 16:00 From: Brenda Connolly In essence, do away with the Adult category? Well I would but no, they want everyone running an adult business to be in the adult category and until such times as LL enforce their rules, they want to be competing with the same customer base, so they want Zindra set to mature.
Darkness Anubis Registered User Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,628	08-31-2009 16:03 well they have 2 choices that make sense and a third that will probably be what happens Make sense 1. go back to the old system and scrap the whole adult thing 2. enforce the rule on the mainland likely to happen 3. blithely go on as they are already and hue and cry from the residents be darned _____________________
Tristin Mikazuki Sarah Palin ROCKS! Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,012	08-31-2009 16:07 From: Darkness Anubis well they have 2 choices that make sense and a third that will probably be what happens Make sense 1. go back to the old system and scrap the whole adult thing 2. enforce the rule on the mainland likely to happen 3. blithely go on as they are already and hue and cry from the residents be darned To right! Number 3 is whats gona happen all of the chats so far pretty much show they dont want to listen... just look like they are.. even tho everyone knows they arent lol _____________________
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	08-31-2009 16:20 From: Darkness Anubis well they have 2 choices that make sense and a third that will probably be what happens Make sense 1. go back to the old system and scrap the whole adult thing 2. enforce the rule on the mainland likely to happen 3. blithely go on as they are already and hue and cry from the residents be darned Actually add to number three, "Ask the residents to police and report the infractions on mature land," and I think we'll see the closest answer. [sarcasm] I mean it worked really great for all their other bans, after all.. [/sarcasm] LL needs to stop giving the residents the "official" means to harass/spy on/witch each other. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
EF Klaar Registered User Join date: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 330	08-31-2009 18:56 I do mean this in a constructive way, though I know it probably won't sound like it, but the participants seem to have made it really easy for Blondin to avoid answering questions, and to cherry-pick the ones he did answer, by going on about their own pet concerns - or the attractiveness of each other's outfits - with little attention to the wider picture. Given the nature of SL, I guess it'd be impossible to put together a short list of the really inportant questions before the meeting, for one voice at a time to ask them, and for everybody to keep quiet and wait for an answer: no possibility then of him using the excuse that he's too busy reading the questions to have time to answer any of them.
Amity Slade Registered User Join date: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,183	08-31-2009 19:17 Yet another example of Linden Lab's combination of rules and enforcement resulting in punishing the honest and rewarding the dishonest.

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