Second Life Forums Archive - Account Downgrade and the New Adult Policy

Duncan Abbot

Registered User

Join date: 26 Mar 2009

Posts: 1

03-30-2009 00:41

Hey all,

I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account.

How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification?

I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Viktoria Dovgal

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Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

03-30-2009 00:53

You don't have to remove your payment info if you drop the premium subscription, so don't worry about that. The payment info used for premium subscriptions is the same one they use for L$ purchases and so on, so you should be okay.

Jackie Silverfall

One Happy Man

Join date: 28 Mar 2009

Posts: 687

03-30-2009 03:59

From: Duncan Abbot

Hey all,

I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account.

How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification?

I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to.

Does anyone know anything about this?

You can also age verify using a US drivers license. Since I'm already in the National Drivers License Registry (don't ask me why

that's what I did. You don't need cc information on file at all in that case, but it doesn't hurt to leave the card on file. J.

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Jackie

Charles Matterhorn

Second Life Kid

Join date: 11 Dec 2007

Posts: 13

03-30-2009 05:23

From: Duncan Abbot

How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification?

Creditcard isn't a proof of your age.
you don't have to be over 18 to get a creditcard

Pserendipity Daniels

Assume sarcasm as default

Join date: 21 Dec 2006

Posts: 8,839

03-30-2009 05:27

From: Charles Matterhorn

Creditcard isn't a proof of your age.
you don't have to be over 18 to get a creditcard

Shhhh!

Pep (Don't tell LL)

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Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

03-30-2009 07:03

From: Charles Matterhorn

Creditcard isn't a proof of your age.
you don't have to be over 18 to get a creditcard

Quite true. Yet Linden Lab has stated that for the new Adults Only continent and flagged private sims, that having payment info on file will be just as acceptable as having passed the Aristotle age verification test.

And the Aristotle verification is also not "proof of age" since anyone can enter anyone else's data and get "Verified". I heard a few people used the validition info for Elvis Prestley, and got accepted...

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Chris Norse

Loud Arrogant Redneck

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 5,735

03-30-2009 07:22

As screwed up as that verification seems to be, it is a wonder more people aren't using dead people's SS numbers. They can easily be found on the web, Richard Nixon's is very public, but you can find anyone's if you have a little basic info that can be found on Wiki.

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Dekka Raymaker

thinking very hard

Join date: 4 Feb 2007

Posts: 3,898

03-30-2009 07:27

I used Chris Norse's

Chris Norse

Loud Arrogant Redneck

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 5,735

03-30-2009 07:31

From: Dekka Raymaker

I used Chris Norse's

He has one?

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“Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind”
Douglas MacArthur

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Dekka Raymaker

thinking very hard

Join date: 4 Feb 2007

Posts: 3,898

03-30-2009 07:33

From: Chris Norse

He has one?

he does now, so expect a call from the IRS

LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

03-30-2009 07:40

From: Duncan Abbot

Hey all,

I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account.

How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification?

I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Downgrade your membership if you do not feel the premium is worth it. For now, until they get things figured out, you could even remove your payment info, however if you wish to buy L$ from within the game or the web pages you will need the payment info. You can also buy L$ from XStreet, which is now owned by LL so there is another place you could let them store your payment info.

Totally skip the Age Verification process cuz it sucks and is not going to be needed. When they finally figure all this Adult Content stuff out, then putting payment info on file with LL will be enough to flag you as Adult.

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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
~Mark Twain~

Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
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Lexxi Gynoid

#'s 86000, 97800

Join date: 6 Aug 2007

Posts: 3,732

03-30-2009 07:47

From: Duncan Abbot

Hey all,

I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account.

How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification?

I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Dont' downgrade if all you did was pay for one month (instead of a quater or a year). Just don't pay for another month (I think they will try to auto charge, so downgrade to basic the day before).

You paid for the stipend lindens. So get them until the end of the month. Then downgrade. You do not get your money back if you downgrade. Or the stipend lindens.

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Jackie Silverfall

One Happy Man

Join date: 28 Mar 2009

Posts: 687

03-30-2009 11:19

From: Lexxi Gynoid

Dont' downgrade if all you did was pay for one month (instead of a quater or a year). Just don't pay for another month (I think they will try to auto charge, so downgrade to basic the day before).

You paid for the stipend lindens. So get them until the end of the month. Then downgrade. You do not get your money back if you downgrade. Or the stipend lindens.

At first blush it looks like if you downgrade to basic the downgrade occurs at the end of your prepaid Premium period. I prepaid for a year for my original account and then tried to down grade it after that account sold our land to me at "Jackie Version 2" (this account). Looking at the first account this morning it said "Downgrade in Progress" or something like that with an effective date of 3/20/2010, with would be a year from my one year premium upgrade. I see nothing about a refund there. If you're month to month then Lexxi's comments are the right way to go.

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Jackie

Amity Slade

Registered User

Join date: 14 Feb 2007

Posts: 2,183

03-30-2009 12:58

You need to have Payment Info Used to have a Premium account. You do not need a Premium account to have Payment Info Used.

Lindal Kidd

Dances With Noobs

Join date: 26 Jun 2007

Posts: 8,371

03-30-2009 13:24

From: Lexxi Gynoid

Dont' downgrade if all you did was pay for one month (instead of a quater or a year). Just don't pay for another month (I think they will try to auto charge, so downgrade to basic the day before).

You paid for the stipend lindens. So get them until the end of the month. Then downgrade. You do not get your money back if you downgrade. Or the stipend lindens.

Definitely use the month you paid for...but do NOT let the payment simply lapse. Downgrade your account the day before it's due. The reason is that LL will DELETE a delinquent Premium account, while an unused Basic account can live nearly forever.

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It's still My World and My Imagination! So there.
Lindal Kidd

Void Singer

Int vSelf = Sing(void);

Join date: 24 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,973

03-30-2009 16:58

From: Chris Norse

As screwed up as that verification seems to be, it is a wonder more people aren't using dead people's SS numbers. They can easily be found on the web, Richard Nixon's is very public, but you can find anyone's if you have a little basic info that can be found on Wiki.

if I were to use somone elses info, this would be my favorite pick
Todd Davis CEO of LifeLock: social security number is 457-55-5462

(and before anyone bitches, that's a c/p from the lifelock frontpage)

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Account Downgrade and the New Adult Policy
Duncan Abbot Registered User Join date: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 1	03-30-2009 00:41 Hey all, I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account. How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification? I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to. Does anyone know anything about this?
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	03-30-2009 00:53 You don't have to remove your payment info if you drop the premium subscription, so don't worry about that. The payment info used for premium subscriptions is the same one they use for L$ purchases and so on, so you should be okay.
Jackie Silverfall One Happy Man Join date: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 687	03-30-2009 03:59 From: Duncan Abbot Hey all, I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account. How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification? I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to. Does anyone know anything about this? You can also age verify using a US drivers license. Since I'm already in the National Drivers License Registry (don't ask me why that's what I did. You don't need cc information on file at all in that case, but it doesn't hurt to leave the card on file. J. _____________________ Jackie
Charles Matterhorn Second Life Kid Join date: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 13	03-30-2009 05:23 From: Duncan Abbot How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification? Creditcard isn't a proof of your age. you don't have to be over 18 to get a creditcard
Pserendipity Daniels Assume sarcasm as default Join date: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,839	03-30-2009 05:27 From: Charles Matterhorn Creditcard isn't a proof of your age. you don't have to be over 18 to get a creditcard Shhhh! Pep (Don't tell LL) _____________________ Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	03-30-2009 07:03 From: Charles Matterhorn Creditcard isn't a proof of your age. you don't have to be over 18 to get a creditcard Quite true. Yet Linden Lab has stated that for the new Adults Only continent and flagged private sims, that having payment info on file will be just as acceptable as having passed the Aristotle age verification test. And the Aristotle verification is also not "proof of age" since anyone can enter anyone else's data and get "Verified". I heard a few people used the validition info for Elvis Prestley, and got accepted... _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	03-30-2009 07:22 As screwed up as that verification seems to be, it is a wonder more people aren't using dead people's SS numbers. They can easily be found on the web, Richard Nixon's is very public, but you can find anyone's if you have a little basic info that can be found on Wiki. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	03-30-2009 07:27 I used Chris Norse's
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	03-30-2009 07:31 From: Dekka Raymaker I used Chris Norse's He has one? _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	03-30-2009 07:33 From: Chris Norse He has one? he does now, so expect a call from the IRS
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	03-30-2009 07:40 From: Duncan Abbot Hey all, I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account. How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification? I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to. Does anyone know anything about this? Downgrade your membership if you do not feel the premium is worth it. For now, until they get things figured out, you could even remove your payment info, however if you wish to buy L$ from within the game or the web pages you will need the payment info. You can also buy L$ from XStreet, which is now owned by LL so there is another place you could let them store your payment info. Totally skip the Age Verification process cuz it sucks and is not going to be needed. When they finally figure all this Adult Content stuff out, then putting payment info on file with LL will be enough to flag you as Adult. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Lexxi Gynoid #'s 86000, 97800 Join date: 6 Aug 2007 Posts: 3,732	03-30-2009 07:47 From: Duncan Abbot Hey all, I am still pretty new to Second Life and learning my way around. I did pay for a month of premium membership. However I am considering downgrading back to a free account. How will this interact with the new policy about adult content? Linden Labs has proof of my age through my credit card. Will I still need to go through age verification? I guess what worries is that I imagine there are going to interesting stuff to see that are not centered around sex on the new continent. I don't like the idea of not be able to go places in SL. But paid membership really isn't doing much for me and I don't want to go through age verification if i don't have to. Does anyone know anything about this? Dont' downgrade if all you did was pay for one month (instead of a quater or a year). Just don't pay for another month (I think they will try to auto charge, so downgrade to basic the day before). You paid for the stipend lindens. So get them until the end of the month. Then downgrade. You do not get your money back if you downgrade. Or the stipend lindens. _____________________ Her Royal Highness Buttercup Meow the XXI
Jackie Silverfall One Happy Man Join date: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 687	03-30-2009 11:19 From: Lexxi Gynoid Dont' downgrade if all you did was pay for one month (instead of a quater or a year). Just don't pay for another month (I think they will try to auto charge, so downgrade to basic the day before). You paid for the stipend lindens. So get them until the end of the month. Then downgrade. You do not get your money back if you downgrade. Or the stipend lindens. At first blush it looks like if you downgrade to basic the downgrade occurs at the end of your prepaid Premium period. I prepaid for a year for my original account and then tried to down grade it after that account sold our land to me at "Jackie Version 2" (this account). Looking at the first account this morning it said "Downgrade in Progress" or something like that with an effective date of 3/20/2010, with would be a year from my one year premium upgrade. I see nothing about a refund there. If you're month to month then Lexxi's comments are the right way to go. _____________________ Jackie
Amity Slade Registered User Join date: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,183	03-30-2009 12:58 You need to have Payment Info Used to have a Premium account. You do not need a Premium account to have Payment Info Used.
Lindal Kidd Dances With Noobs Join date: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8,371	03-30-2009 13:24 From: Lexxi Gynoid Dont' downgrade if all you did was pay for one month (instead of a quater or a year). Just don't pay for another month (I think they will try to auto charge, so downgrade to basic the day before). You paid for the stipend lindens. So get them until the end of the month. Then downgrade. You do not get your money back if you downgrade. Or the stipend lindens. Definitely use the month you paid for...but do NOT let the payment simply lapse. Downgrade your account the day before it's due. The reason is that LL will DELETE a delinquent Premium account, while an unused Basic account can live nearly forever. _____________________ It's still My World and My Imagination! So there. Lindal Kidd
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	03-30-2009 16:58 From: Chris Norse As screwed up as that verification seems to be, it is a wonder more people aren't using dead people's SS numbers. They can easily be found on the web, Richard Nixon's is very public, but you can find anyone's if you have a little basic info that can be found on Wiki. if I were to use somone elses info, this would be my favorite pick Todd Davis CEO of LifeLock: social security number is 457-55-5462 (and before anyone bitches, that's a c/p from the lifelock frontpage) _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -

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