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Tarak Voss

Meanderer

Join date: 14 Oct 2006

Posts: 330

01-31-2009 23:04

I have just realised that Lindens are charging for the first 512 sq meters of land - this could be old news - call me slow.

I pay fees, I create stuff and distribute it as freebies - this is just greed - over the next couple of weeks I'm returning or selling my land and getting out.

There are alternatives now and SL is getting too expensive and not giving value for money.

So Long everyone and thanks for all the fish

Talon Brown

Slacker Punk

Join date: 17 May 2006

Posts: 352

01-31-2009 23:06

Wait, what, they are now charging tier for the first 512m of land you own? When did this happen? I only own a 512m parcel and I've heard nothing about this.

Sindy Tsure

Will script for shoes

Join date: 18 Sep 2006

Posts: 4,103

01-31-2009 23:13

/me points at http://secondlife.com/land/pricing.php

From: LL

Premium accounts are granted a 512 sqm bonus lease before land use fees are applied. The chart below shows the fees for all land you hold or tier you donate beyond the 512 sqm bonus.

You sure you're being charged for that first 512, Tarak?

SuezanneC Baskerville

Forums Rock!

Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

01-31-2009 23:33

The first 512 s.m. are supposed to be included in the premium account fee.

Is that not what is happening?

Did you maybe donate some tier to a group by mistake?

Or did they make a billing mistake?

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Morwen Bunin

Everybody needs a hero!

Join date: 8 Dec 2005

Posts: 1,743

02-01-2009 00:26

I just checked and as far I can see the 512 sq.m. are still free.

Morwen.

Void Singer

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Join date: 24 Sep 2005

Posts: 6,973

02-01-2009 01:18

since you've possibly overreacted... can I at least have your fish?

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Tarak Voss

Meanderer

Join date: 14 Oct 2006

Posts: 330

02-01-2009 03:55

OK! OK! enough already!

Red Face here - I was reading the following:

Land Holdings
Allowed holdings: 2,560 square meters
Current holdings: 0 square meters
Available for purchase: 2,048 square meters
Peak square meter usage: 1,024 square meters
Total monthly cost: USD 5.00

On checking my Account Statement I see the funds have not been removed -

As for the fish - it is all in the bait used - but still so long - enjoy you SL everyone

Dekka Raymaker

thinking very hard

Join date: 4 Feb 2007

Posts: 3,898

02-01-2009 03:59

it's the new chart that's confusing, at the top it used to say 512m - free, but now it appears to say 512m - US$5, unless you read above.

Raudf Fox

(ra-ow-th)

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

02-01-2009 06:39

From: Dekka Raymaker

it's the new chart that's confusing, at the top it used to say 512m - free, but now it appears to say 512m - US$5, unless you read above.

Or you go to your account and then to land use fees. Then it shows you exactly how it calculates the price. Apparently, LL has made that one list for those who are thinking about buying land, not those of us how already own land.

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LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

02-01-2009 09:42

From: Dekka Raymaker

it's the new chart that's confusing, at the top it used to say 512m - free, but now it appears to say 512m - US$5, unless you read above.

Actually the column title says:

Additional Land
(over 512 sqm)

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LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

02-01-2009 09:44

From: Void Singer

since you've possibly overreacted... can I at least have your fish?

I don't want any fish, but can I have the other stuff?

From: Tarak Voss

OK! OK! enough already!

Red Face here - I was reading the following:

.....

Many of those pages are a bit confusing.

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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
~Mark Twain~

Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
♥♥♥
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Oryx Tempel

Registered User

Join date: 8 Nov 2006

Posts: 7,663

02-01-2009 10:15

From: Tarak Voss

OK! OK! enough already!

Red Face here - I was reading the following:

Land Holdings
Allowed holdings: 2,560 square meters
Current holdings: 0 square meters
Available for purchase: 2,048 square meters
Peak square meter usage: 1,024 square meters
Total monthly cost: USD 5.00

On checking my Account Statement I see the funds have not been removed -

As for the fish - it is all in the bait used - but still so long - enjoy you SL everyone

At any rate, you're only being charged for your PEAK square meter usage, which means that sometime during the month you actually did own 1024. You'll be charged for it even if you don't currently own it; and you're being charged $5, which is the correct amount for 1024.

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Alisha Matova

Too Old; Do Not Want!

Join date: 8 Mar 2007

Posts: 583

02-01-2009 11:11

At then end of your billing cycle you will be charged that 5 usd for the 1024 peek usage. You will also have to go back to that page post billing, and lower your monthly payment back to 0.
Or it will continue to bill at 5 usd a month until you tier down to 0. =)

Often over looked.

Larrie Lane

Registered User

Join date: 9 Feb 2007

Posts: 667

02-01-2009 11:45

From: Alisha Matova

At then end of your billing cycle you will be charged that 5 usd for the 1024 peek usage. You will also have to go back to that page post billing, and lower your monthly payment back to 0.
Or it will continue to bill at 5 usd a month until you tier down to 0. =)

Often over looked.

Sorry Alisha,

This is not true, it does not matter what your tier level is, you are only charged the maximum amount of land you owned in the last 30 days.

You do not need to tier down as it is called, you do not need to do anything, if you don't own it you do not pay for it.

I have just debated this in another thread 2 days ago;
/327/5a/304936/1.html

LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

02-01-2009 12:41

Doesn't the selected tier level really just indicated at what level you will get that 'tier up' confirmation box when you buy land - thought I heard that somewhere? So if you currently own 1024, you are billed for the 512 over the base 512, but if you have your tier level set to 8192, you can keep buying up to the 8192 amount before you will get the box that tells you that you must approve a higher tier level.

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♥♥♥
-Lil

Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
~Mark Twain~

Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
♥♥♥
Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell

Larrie Lane

Registered User

Join date: 9 Feb 2007

Posts: 667

02-01-2009 13:31

From: LittleMe Jewell

Doesn't the selected tier level really just indicated at what level you will get that 'tier up' confirmation box when you buy land - thought I heard that somewhere? So if you currently own 1024, you are billed for the 512 over the base 512, but if you have your tier level set to 8192, you can keep buying up to the 8192 amount before you will get the box that tells you that you must approve a higher tier level.

Correct

You can set your tier level at 65536sqm (a full sim), all this means is that you are prepared to pay upto that tier level as previously explained, you will not recieve any warning as such as long as you buy upto that amount. If you exceed that amount you will be told you are going to be automatically upgraded to the next tier level to cover the amount of land owned.

If you do not own any land and your tier level is at 65536sqm (U$195.00 per month) you will pay nothing.

If however you buy 2048sqm of land in that 30 day billing period and your Tier Level is 65536sqm (U$195.00 per month) you will be have to pay U$15.00.

The reason for this is that the maximum amount of land owned in the previous 30 days or what will be shown on your account page, 'Peak Usage' will be charged accordingly as per 'Mainland Pricing and Fees' page.
http://secondlife.com/land/pricing.php

There is no reason to tier down unless you would like a reminder that informs you of further increases to your tier level.

So long and Thanks for all the fish
Tarak Voss Meanderer Join date: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 330	01-31-2009 23:04 I have just realised that Lindens are charging for the first 512 sq meters of land - this could be old news - call me slow. I pay fees, I create stuff and distribute it as freebies - this is just greed - over the next couple of weeks I'm returning or selling my land and getting out. There are alternatives now and SL is getting too expensive and not giving value for money. So Long everyone and thanks for all the fish
Talon Brown Slacker Punk Join date: 17 May 2006 Posts: 352	01-31-2009 23:06 Wait, what, they are now charging tier for the first 512m of land you own? When did this happen? I only own a 512m parcel and I've heard nothing about this.
Sindy Tsure Will script for shoes Join date: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 4,103	01-31-2009 23:13 /me points at http://secondlife.com/land/pricing.php From: LL Premium accounts are granted a 512 sqm bonus lease before land use fees are applied. The chart below shows the fees for all land you hold or tier you donate beyond the 512 sqm bonus. You sure you're being charged for that first 512, Tarak?
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	01-31-2009 23:33 The first 512 s.m. are supposed to be included in the premium account fee. Is that not what is happening? Did you maybe donate some tier to a group by mistake? Or did they make a billing mistake? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Morwen Bunin Everybody needs a hero! Join date: 8 Dec 2005 Posts: 1,743	02-01-2009 00:26 I just checked and as far I can see the 512 sq.m. are still free. Morwen.
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	02-01-2009 01:18 since you've possibly overreacted... can I at least have your fish? _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Tarak Voss Meanderer Join date: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 330	02-01-2009 03:55 OK! OK! enough already! Red Face here - I was reading the following: Land Holdings Allowed holdings: 2,560 square meters Current holdings: 0 square meters Available for purchase: 2,048 square meters Peak square meter usage: 1,024 square meters Total monthly cost: USD 5.00 On checking my Account Statement I see the funds have not been removed - As for the fish - it is all in the bait used - but still so long - enjoy you SL everyone
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	02-01-2009 03:59 it's the new chart that's confusing, at the top it used to say 512m - free, but now it appears to say 512m - US$5, unless you read above.
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	02-01-2009 06:39 From: Dekka Raymaker it's the new chart that's confusing, at the top it used to say 512m - free, but now it appears to say 512m - US$5, unless you read above. Or you go to your account and then to land use fees. Then it shows you exactly how it calculates the price. Apparently, LL has made that one list for those who are thinking about buying land, not those of us how already own land. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	02-01-2009 09:42 From: Dekka Raymaker it's the new chart that's confusing, at the top it used to say 512m - free, but now it appears to say 512m - US$5, unless you read above. Actually the column title says: Additional Land (over 512 sqm) _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	02-01-2009 09:44 From: Void Singer since you've possibly overreacted... can I at least have your fish? I don't want any fish, but can I have the other stuff? From: Tarak Voss OK! OK! enough already! Red Face here - I was reading the following: ..... Many of those pages are a bit confusing. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	02-01-2009 10:15 From: Tarak Voss OK! OK! enough already! Red Face here - I was reading the following: Land Holdings Allowed holdings: 2,560 square meters Current holdings: 0 square meters Available for purchase: 2,048 square meters Peak square meter usage: 1,024 square meters Total monthly cost: USD 5.00 On checking my Account Statement I see the funds have not been removed - As for the fish - it is all in the bait used - but still so long - enjoy you SL everyone At any rate, you're only being charged for your PEAK square meter usage, which means that sometime during the month you actually did own 1024. You'll be charged for it even if you don't currently own it; and you're being charged $5, which is the correct amount for 1024. _____________________
Alisha Matova Too Old; Do Not Want! Join date: 8 Mar 2007 Posts: 583	02-01-2009 11:11 At then end of your billing cycle you will be charged that 5 usd for the 1024 peek usage. You will also have to go back to that page post billing, and lower your monthly payment back to 0. Or it will continue to bill at 5 usd a month until you tier down to 0. =) Often over looked.
Larrie Lane Registered User Join date: 9 Feb 2007 Posts: 667	02-01-2009 11:45 From: Alisha Matova At then end of your billing cycle you will be charged that 5 usd for the 1024 peek usage. You will also have to go back to that page post billing, and lower your monthly payment back to 0. Or it will continue to bill at 5 usd a month until you tier down to 0. =) Often over looked. Sorry Alisha, This is not true, it does not matter what your tier level is, you are only charged the maximum amount of land you owned in the last 30 days. You do not need to tier down as it is called, you do not need to do anything, if you don't own it you do not pay for it. I have just debated this in another thread 2 days ago; /327/5a/304936/1.html
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	02-01-2009 12:41 Doesn't the selected tier level really just indicated at what level you will get that 'tier up' confirmation box when you buy land - thought I heard that somewhere? So if you currently own 1024, you are billed for the 512 over the base 512, but if you have your tier level set to 8192, you can keep buying up to the 8192 amount before you will get the box that tells you that you must approve a higher tier level. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Larrie Lane Registered User Join date: 9 Feb 2007 Posts: 667	02-01-2009 13:31 From: LittleMe Jewell Doesn't the selected tier level really just indicated at what level you will get that 'tier up' confirmation box when you buy land - thought I heard that somewhere? So if you currently own 1024, you are billed for the 512 over the base 512, but if you have your tier level set to 8192, you can keep buying up to the 8192 amount before you will get the box that tells you that you must approve a higher tier level. Correct You can set your tier level at 65536sqm (a full sim), all this means is that you are prepared to pay upto that tier level as previously explained, you will not recieve any warning as such as long as you buy upto that amount. If you exceed that amount you will be told you are going to be automatically upgraded to the next tier level to cover the amount of land owned. If you do not own any land and your tier level is at 65536sqm (U$195.00 per month) you will pay nothing. If however you buy 2048sqm of land in that 30 day billing period and your Tier Level is 65536sqm (U$195.00 per month) you will be have to pay U$15.00. The reason for this is that the maximum amount of land owned in the previous 30 days or what will be shown on your account page, 'Peak Usage' will be charged accordingly as per 'Mainland Pricing and Fees' page. http://secondlife.com/land/pricing.php There is no reason to tier down unless you would like a reminder that informs you of further increases to your tier level.

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