Appearance 'mode'

Right click avy...select Appearance...and you avetar assumes this dorky looking pose. LOL.

I understand the purpose of the pose...but isn't there anythign else out there? Anythign I can do/buy to maybe put him in a more studdly postion instead of all spread eagle? LOL

not for when you click on appearance
I have never seen an override for that one yet

rest assured, you are not alone

The aim is to put the avatar at rest so that you can see what you're doing. You could use a pose stand and put a suitable pose in it but then that wouldn't be tied to edit appearance.

You hardly need to use edit appearance anyway so it shouldn't really be an issue.

I thought Edit Appearance was the only way you could modify: shape, skin, eyebrows, eyes, and system tops/jackets/pants/skirts/socks/gloves/underclothes? Is there another way to do this?

no there isn't

so for folks who use clothes, skin, shape, etc it is used a lot
for ppl who tend to be prim avatars they prolly do not use it much

You're right but my question is of your time in SL, how much time do you spend in edit appearance modifying all of those?

Unless you rezz a posestand with a different default animation, I would also add "edit prim attachments to make them fit your bodyshape" to the list of things which use the spread eagle pose.

But I've never heard of anyone replacing the default edit appearance pose yet.

A script won't kill it and the priority is too high to override, so you would have to edit the viewer source to change this. To make it work right, the substitute animation would need to do the same peculiar 180-degree turn, so you would probably need to roll your own; and you might want to attempt some trickery to get the special extra-high priority stuffed in there too. Seems like a lot of trouble

I think there's probably a method to the quirky madness that is the 'edit appearance' pose. It's the best way to show symetry in the adjustments as you make them. That pose is the optimum stance for adjusting prim attachments too. If you were in some kind of 'cool' pose you wouldn't necessarily be able to see the areas your trying to edit and ya might wind up with elephant ears or a honkin nose..... better to look goofy for a few seconds then to walk around looking like a freak and not realize it.

Yes. The spread eagle pose is the "at rest" position, the average, if you will, for all your joints and attachment points. This is the best position to be in to edit prim attachments, and to be able to see all of yourself for editing avatar mesh items.

The same pose is used, by the way, in every 3D modeling program I've used as a rest position for humanoid figures.

Oh, okay - It sort of sounded like you were saying that you really did not even need to use Edit Appearance.



For prim attachments, especially my skirts, I do a basic adjustment in the standard spread eagle pose and then I go in to my normal standing pose and tweak it a bit. Otherwise, my thigh is quite often sticking thru my skirts when I am just standing.

I like to tint the things I'm wear, so I use Appearance mode pretty often...almost daily.

same here, im always fooling with my looks.

Here's a small hack that can get part of the avatar (below the waist) posed the way you want it. Click on a priority 4 pose split seconds after entering Appearance, and the lower half of the pose will stick.

Back in the days just after animations became available the Appearance mode could be overridden by an animation. I'm not sure what release that was, though.

Who cares how you look while editing appearance? It is the optimal position for editing because the body is fully centered. If you're conscious of it, do it somewhere quiet and away from people.

Or do it with your eyes closed

Or wear an invisibility prim and pop your camera inside

Is someone really asking for a different pose in Edit Appearance??!


LL, please remember this thread because it without a doubt proves that you can please some of the people some of the time but there will always be the small minority, the few that you cannot please.

I prefer LL work on something constructive other than changing the way my avatar looks when I go into appearance - something that i and the average resident rarely need to do.

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This kind of statement is really starting to get on my nerves (Again). LL has a lot of people working for them. They don't all work on one project. They work on various aspects, one of those being aesthetics (Which I think this classifies as).

They wouldn't stop fixing bugs to change a pose, they'd do both. Not that I think that they're going to change the pose, just an example since that's what this thread is technically about.

They're all grown up, they know how to allocate work and still get things fixed.

Seriously. Look at the newest RC. People complained about Dazzle (Now silver), so they changed it to optional, with a choice. And guess what? Even in that release, they fixed some bugs. And they're still working on the Dazzle project too, and STILL fixing bugs. Dazzle, as the UI project, is purely aesthetic and technically not all that constructive.


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No idea what al i s overwritable in this situation, sorry.
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This is one of those "too much magic" things. Whenever one plays the "turn_180" animation (only a priority 3 if just played normally), the avatar name gets the "Editing Appearance)" annotation and the cam does its Editing Appearance thing. Name annotation also happens just by playing the "away" animation. I won't even pretend to understand what all happens when an avatar falls down and stands up (there's a whole sequence of animations that play, during which the avatar rotates 90 degrees forward and back--or something like that).

that explains why sometimes when I am on my pose stand for photos for ads, and click on my appearance for one reason or another, I end up in a weird half appearance mode half modeling pose stance LOL