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Restrained life viewer

Oxymoron Parx
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05-31-2009 06:04
I get a lot of people ask If I use the restrained life viewer. I think I know what it is (I am into bdsm) and am thinking of trying it. Has anyone tried it? I hear it can leave me helpless & unable to log out

Any advice or warnings?

Thanx

Oxy
Kelli May
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05-31-2009 06:48
It can't stop you from logging out, unless there's been a big change to it recently I'm unaware of. It can, if you wear an unrestricted relay, render you almost helpless. As a quick sample, you can be blocked from standing up from an object, teleporting, viewing the map, editing objects, speaking, IMing, hearing, removing restraints, and wearing clothes (prim or system).

A quick note on 'relays'. For objects and other avs to get control of you through RLV, you have to wear a relay. These are often included in collars, where they can be limited to only allow one's Master/Mistress/Owner access. Others are HUD attachments, often give away free by BDSM stores & clubs. They are sometimes totally unrestricted - anyone with the appropriate item can take control - or they have optional levels of access (e.g. No Access, Permission Required, All Access).
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05-31-2009 06:55
From: Kelli May
It can't stop you from logging out, unless there's been a big change to it recently I'm unaware of. It can, if you wear an unrestricted relay, render you almost helpless. As a quick sample, you can be blocked from standing up from an object, teleporting, viewing the map, editing objects, speaking, IMing, hearing, removing restraints, and wearing clothes (prim or system).

Pretty much like the standard viewer operates most of the time then? :rolleyes:

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Kelli May
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05-31-2009 07:00
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pretty much like the standard viewer operates most of the time then? :rolleyes:

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Windsweptgold Wopat
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05-31-2009 07:11
I am one of those who feel it is not worth it. If you are into BDSM or D/s and have a good partner be they Top or bottom then its not needed.
You will find others posts about the RLV
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Rygel Ryba
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05-31-2009 08:02
There are lots of handy and fun functions in RLV that have little or nothing to do with the Bondage Crowd (or adult activities in general).

I for one made an outfit manager (Called the LBOM) that is a part of our Free HUD. you can find it on Xstreet - I do have it categorized as adult since it has a "strip" function in it, but... basically it allows you to set up outfit folders and it will allow you to quickly and easily change outfits using a menu. And it will let you strip your clothes off (but it's smart and will leave your hair and other things on - without needing to use the clunky "lock" system that RLV has).

It also has a way to force a person's viewer into any of the "Sky and Water" preset things (I forget what that's all called - I haven't had a chance to play with it much). But eventually I hope to work out a script where people can land at my sim and if they wish to allow it, the skies will turn a rich orange of twilight, with waters that run red with the blood a fallen heroes, and whatever else I can do that looks cool.

Plus, teleporting without clicking or sitting. one click (or no click) teleporting anywhere on the grid (no map popup or LM needed).

The trick with RLV is that you need to wear a "RELAY" in order to have any object "lock" you or forbid you from chatting and so on. Some of the basic ones are pretty much either off, ask every time, or always on. Ask every time gets old when you are actually in a place that makes good use of the functions. I am in the process now of adding Satomi's Multi Relay (also available for free on Xstreet) into my free HUD (big fan of incorporating well done, open source tools into my hud in order to combine and save attach points). I hope to have the testing done on that this week sometime. With her Relay, you can set "trust lists" on per object or per-owner basis. (I.e. if you trust me as a developer, you can say, "Allow Rygels' stuff to mess with me without asking." and everything else - it will keep asking). This keeps you out of risk of accidentally beaming into a place that is going to do something that is unfun and just a nuissance.

There are tons of fun things in RLV that can be worth checking out. Sadly, there aren't a lot of places that have discovered the viewer outside of the BDSM community. (It really needs to undergo a name change - it has grown into something really cool now).
Ava Velde
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05-31-2009 08:12
From: Oxymoron Parx
I get a lot of people ask If I use the restrained life viewer. I think I know what it is (I am into bdsm) and am thinking of trying it. Has anyone tried it? I hear it can leave me helpless & unable to log out

Any advice or warnings?

Thanx

Oxy



I tested that short time but i am not into sex and really stay far away from BDSM *lol so the GreenLife Viewer offers a lot more really useful and handy tools for me
Roxee Sweetwater
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05-31-2009 08:20
RLV can be a lot of fun.. But make sure you trust the other avvy you play with.
Vania Chaplin
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05-31-2009 08:30
As in many things, the way you (and your master/mistress) use it is more important than the RLV itself.

I am a sub for the same mistress since I was 1 month old in SL, and am using only rlv almost since than. She can force me to sit on stuff, force me to tp, and I love this use. This invovle my trustee on her, that she will care for me while forcing me to do what she wants. That I am on her mercy to be capable to leave to leave a cage, knowing that she won't left me there while going elsewhere. And I do prefer that she force me, than just saying " sit there and stay until I say that can leave". In RL, if my partner handcuffs me on bed, I have to wait she freed me. That is the same in SL with the use of rlv.

There are some thigns that we agree is out of limits, like blocking IM's and chat. I make clothing, and cannot be prevented to receive an IM from a customer. But all of this depends of you and your master/mistress, and the way you use it.
Feldspar Millgrove
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05-31-2009 20:23
From: Oxymoron Parx
I get a lot of people ask If I use the restrained life viewer. I think I know what it is (I am into bdsm) and am thinking of trying it.


All this time I thought it was some viewer for people doing the CSI:NY experience or something, giving them a simplified and easier interface to Second Life with lots of capabilities removed or hidden.

I had no idea!
Mitzy Shino
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05-31-2009 20:59
Like poseballs, animations, chairs, whips and many other items in the SL BDSM world, RLV is merely an aid in setting the scene/making it more "real".

Yes it can lock on onto items, or make you do 'x' or 'y' but without the right RP its pretty boring.

The cool thing of course is that if your cuffs, collar, or cage is locked, it really is locked, no cheating out except by relogging with the normal viewer.

Of course if you and your partner have the right relationship, a cage with or without RLV is not needed. (ie the simple instruction of "Stay on this spot" should be enough to make you/them do so, no bars required)
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Boy Lane
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05-31-2009 23:32
RLV is not at all limited to BDSM usage although that's its origin. There are a lot more applications that make use of it, i.e. Codie's FilterCam or Rika's Lucky chair auto sitter
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Sling Trebuchet
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06-01-2009 03:31
Something RLV-like would be good for combat RP.

While SciFi environments might be expected to have scanners, a good "old-fashioned" RP would disable Map and limit MiniMap to a very short range of maybe 50 metres at most.

Panthers of course should be allowed unrestricted MiniMap, as they can read all the signs of the forest and don't disturb birds much. :)


Prevention of IMs while in combat situation might also be good unless VHF has been invented in the environment.
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Briana Dawson
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06-01-2009 04:25
From: Ava Velde
I tested that short time but i am not into sex and really stay far away from BDSM *lol so the GreenLife Viewer offers a lot more really useful and handy tools for me


RLV is being added to GreenLife.
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Jackie Silverfall
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06-01-2009 04:33
From: Mitzy Shino
Like poseballs, animations, chairs, whips and many other items in the SL BDSM world, RLV is merely an aid in setting the scene/making it more "real".

Yes it can lock on onto items, or make you do 'x' or 'y' but without the right RP its pretty boring.

The cool thing of course is that if your cuffs, collar, or cage is locked, it really is locked, no cheating out except by relogging with the normal viewer.

Of course if you and your partner have the right relationship, a cage with or without RLV is not needed. (ie the simple instruction of "Stay on this spot" should be enough to make you/them do so, no bars required)

I agree. The basic collar functions for most scripted collars are sufficient, plus the right relationship between D/s. However, RLV can add to the experience when used properly. I don't use it, but my partner does and it does add another dimension to the experience.
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06-01-2009 04:51
Also make sure that the products you're using which you expect to work with RLV, will actually do what you expect them to. I've learned this from personal experience with a very well-known business selling BDSM gear including collars, who is now out of business and has open-sourced all her products.

I was informed that her collars which she was advertising as RLV-compatible supported "all the commands they needed to" and that "only a cretin" would attempt to use the particular non-supported command I was specifically trying to use.

This is not RLV compatiblity in my opinion, and to treat a paying customer the way she did so, is reprehensible. I'm glad she's out of business. But I digress.

Just make sure that you're getting something that's compatible with the things you actually want it to do, if you're dealing with RLV-compatible products, before you find yourself surprised later.