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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
01-10-2009 16:30
It finally happened. I cannot log in because there's 75K residents online.

We've had the bot discussion ad nauseum already. I think everyone should be allowed a couple of alt accounts, and I don't have anything against bots in general, as many perform useful services.

But the endless throngs of traffic bots are ridiculous, and when there's so many it bottlenecks the system, to where actual humans cannot log on to handle their business, create content or enjoy the grid in general, something is seriously wrong.

The grid was not made for the bots, it was made for US.

/end rant, I'm just blowing off steam.
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Lizz Silverstar
Living in the Moment
Join date: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 192
01-10-2009 16:40
Nope, you are looking at it wrong Kip, bots are good for LL. They keep us residents out and push their concurence numbers real high. After all we still have to pay our tier, so they still collect our money.

Of course bots are bad for us, but then I have seen little evidence that LL cares much about what is good for the residents as a whole.
Aeslyn Dae
over and out
Join date: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 453
01-10-2009 16:43
No Aes, you shall *not* go to the ball. Or at least not back to it - locked out and I didn't even leave a glass slipper behind.

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Lizz Silverstar
Living in the Moment
Join date: 12 Nov 2006
Posts: 192
01-10-2009 16:45
You gotta love this. Now I don't get the "Logins Disabled" message anymore. I get the "The system is logging you out" message.. Of course it has been logging me out for over 20 minutes now.:(
Aeslyn Dae
over and out
Join date: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 453
01-10-2009 16:51
A long queue to leave as well as to get in? Well that's a new one.


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Cappy Frantisek
Open Source is the Devil!
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 400
01-10-2009 16:53
From: Cory

1) Second Life will return to steady growth and have a shockingly good 2009

I'll bet Cory is changing his mind now! Personally, I don't see it getting any better in the near future.
Cappy Frantisek
Open Source is the Devil!
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 400
01-10-2009 16:54
From: Aeslyn Dae
A long queue to leave as well as to get in? Well that's a new one.


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It just means the db can't keep up, in or out. When it goes bad, it really goes bad in a hurry! Yay for MySQL!
bobby Willunga
Registered User
Join date: 7 Jun 2007
Posts: 16
open again
01-10-2009 17:05
its open again and i was just going to bed!!!
Cappy Frantisek
Open Source is the Devil!
Join date: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 400
01-10-2009 17:11
From: bobby Willunga
its open again and i was just going to bed!!!

you would probably have more fun ;)
Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
01-10-2009 17:19
From: Cappy Frantisek
you would probably have more fun ;)


Ooooh, I dunno about that. :D
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 7,425
01-10-2009 18:00
everything is fine and dandy until it affects one personally

then it becomes an issue

if each and every person (real live person) were to get that msg and not be allowed in, then each (or almost each) person would then complain (either publicly or just in their own mind) about the bots...

just saying is all
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Phil Deakins
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Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
01-10-2009 18:08
It's bots that cause TPs to fail sometimes, and various crashes. Oh, and attachments up your ass - that's caused by bots too, not to mention slow rezzing, ruthing, rubber banding, and of course the increase in the cost of Open Space sims. The damned things are responsible for so much that's wrong with SL. You can be sure that, if something goes wrong with SL, the damned bots are responsible for it.
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
01-11-2009 02:07
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
if each and every person (real live person) were to get that msg and not be allowed in, then each (or almost each) person would then complain (either publicly or just in their own mind) about the bots...

just saying is all



You do realize that, "if each and every person (real live person) were to get that msg and not be allowed in," the chances would be very good the login issue has nothing to do with traffic bots, right?

*sigh*
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Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
01-11-2009 02:36
The weird thing for me is, it's only affecting *one* of my alts. I can log in as myself or one of the others, but this one girl keeps getting this message:

From: someone
Login failed.
The system is logging you out right now.
Your account will not be available until -----


The time and date is usually just a couple minutes away, but when that time comes, it just happens again, with a new time.

Before it happened, I was unable to buy freebies - it would either time out ("Request is stale";) or it would say I didn't have enough money.
Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
Join date: 2 May 2008
Posts: 2,386
01-11-2009 02:57
From: Key MacMoragh
The weird thing for me is, it's only affecting *one* of my alts. I can log in as myself or one of the others, but this one girl keeps getting this message:

The time and date is usually just a couple minutes away, but when that time comes, it just happens again, with a new time.

Before it happened, I was unable to buy freebies - it would either time out ("Request is stale";) or it would say I didn't have enough money.


Now that's odd. The message I was getting was quite a bit different, saying something about logins being overwhelmed and so forth. Your issue seems like maybe there's something up with that particular ava. Maybe you have some corrupt files in the cache for that one?
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Amaranthim Talon
Voyager, Seeker, Curious
Join date: 14 Nov 2006
Posts: 12,032
01-11-2009 05:16
Key I had that happen like three times last night- it was about 6:15 SL Time - When we all started adding the time stamp to the Cartel chat- it kept telling me I did not have enough Lindens -uhm, for a $1 Linden pari of earrings btw. It did eventually work though.
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Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
01-11-2009 05:47
From: Ghosty Kips
Now that's odd. The message I was getting was quite a bit different, saying something about logins being overwhelmed and so forth. Your issue seems like maybe there's something up with that particular ava. Maybe you have some corrupt files in the cache for that one?


Grr... you must be right.

I tried clearing the cache... didn't help... so I deleted the whole "Second Life" directory under Documents And Settings\My Crap\Etc. but that didn't change anything.

I have... uh, more than two alts, and they are all fine except for this one.

Maybe I have to call the Lindens.
Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
01-11-2009 06:37
Resolved. I went and paid that alt a linden... didn't work right away, but a half hour later the time it told me to wait was now... so I logged in.

Whew!
Dante Tucker
Purple
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 806
01-11-2009 06:47
From: Key MacMoragh
Resolved. I went and paid that alt a linden... didn't work right away, but a half hour later the time it told me to wait was now... so I logged in.

Whew!


This problem is actualy quite simple and contained in the message itself:

Login failed.
The system is logging you out right now.

Thats exactly what is wrong, last time you logged off or crashed, the sim started to log you off but never fineshed, most commonly becuase your attachments failed to save (due to the grid instability at the time).

So you couldn't log in because you were still logging out :P
Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
01-11-2009 06:54
From: Dante Tucker
So you couldn't log in because you were still logging out :P


Thanks for the explanation. So I guess waiting was the fix?
Elora Lunasea
Mrs. Llama
Join date: 28 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,828
01-11-2009 06:55
That was me last night, 75000+ and couldn't get in.

Guess we'll just have to have our breakfast first, so step away from the computer :p
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Dante Tucker
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 806
01-11-2009 07:03
From: Key MacMoragh
Thanks for the explanation. So I guess waiting was the fix?


That, or you can get someone to restart the sim you were in.

People claim sending L or IMs to the account will fix it. Though personaly that stopped working for me months ago. I think it is only still believed due to word of mouth, not practice.
Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
01-11-2009 07:14
You might also try rebooting on your end. Modems and routers sometimes don't let go of the connection after you log/crash. Unfortunately, the message doesn't differentiate between the two types of issues.

But if paying your avatar L$1 worked, then that means that somewhere on the grid, probably in the last place you were at was a ghost of your avatar, freaking out other users.
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Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
01-11-2009 07:39
I had this message.

Login failed and we are so sorry Ceka!!
The system is logging you in right now.
Your account will be available A.S.A.P.
We just have to make room for you
your wait time should only be 30 seconds.
If you experience any lag just let one of us know and we will make more room.
your account has been given a $L 10,000 linden increase for your inconvenience.

30 Seconds? I was like C'mon!! that deserves at least 20k bonus!!
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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01-11-2009 09:58
From: Ghosty Kips
You do realize that, "if each and every person (real live person) were to get that msg and not be allowed in," the chances would be very good the login issue has nothing to do with traffic bots, right?

*sigh*


I did not mean all at the same time LOL

if that were the case then I think bots would be getting it too

which makes me wonder, what happens if a bot gets that login error... do they complain about the humans?
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