Problem with "smile" AO

I always disliked those barbie-like creatues with the randomly smiling AOs. Recently I found a free one and used it just out of curiosity. What an irony! Now, this "random smile" has been stuck in my mouth. I cannot get rid of this, despite the fact that I removed the AO immediately. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance

Sounds like the animation is still running. Relogging usually fixes that. You might want to pick up a free "Stop all animations" device from the box of "Useful free stuff" I have set out at my store in Shona. See my picks in my profile to get a teleport to it.

Wear the "Stop all animations" device momentarily anytime you find your self stuck in an animation or dance, etc. Take it off after wearing it briefly.

Thanks for your concern. The problem exists more than four days, which means that my repeatedly relogging did actually nothing. I just got and used the "stop all animations" attachemnet, but, unfortunately, this proved to be unhelpful as well. It seems that I am destined to remain "smillingly happy" forever! Except...

Hm..., any more thoughts?

Use another smile attachment and then detach it or tell it to stop emoting.

Hmmm. Do other people see you smiling, too? And are there any other AOs or scripted attachments that could possibly act as AOs (like shoes, or even hair)?

A "stop all animations" script really does stop all the animations that the sim thinks your avatar is using. My best guess is that your viewer thinks you're still smiling but the sim and everybody else thinks otherwise. If that's what's happening, probably the easiest way to fix that is a little script that starts and then stops the smiling animation. But before I write one of those, let's see what else you've got attached that could defeat it.

Thanks for your replies.
I removed two AOs (one walking and one with standing poses) and it seems the the smile disapears. When I reattach the standing poses AO I start to smile again, though this has none smiling gesture. Curious!

The facial expression animations are very special. They cannot be created by animators, and there are just a fixed set of them built-in. So, to invoke them, a script uses that built-in animation name, not an animation contained within the object's inventory.

Now, if that AO happens to be based on the venerable ZHAO 2 script, it will contain a notecard, possibly called "Default", listing what animations to use for the different avatar states such as walking, standing, sitting, etc. The lines in that file may contain the words "express_smile" for each stand animation listed, which would cause the avatar to smile each time the stand changed. (I actually do this in the AO I usually wear.)

On the other hand, if the avatar really just stays smiling all the time, the AO must be scripted to push that animation over and over: it only lasts a few seconds each time it's played.

Why are you using 2 AOs for walking and standing? Grab yourself a Zhaoo II (they are free). I use a Huddles Deluxe, but I am finding it way to complicated and overkill for simple AO use.

I'd hardly call the Zhao II venerable when it did not even exist in 2005.

A LOT of people still use the 'venerable' Franimator/Wet Ikon AO and the Zhao II looks futuristic in comparison.

Well, *I* didn't even exist in 2005.

But fair enough: The heart of the Franimation Override beats on inside ZHAO-II (as you probably know), so it's from the same lineage, but (somewhat) less laggy and has more features. I actually just meant to indicate that it was a good choice because it's achieved some honor among AO-wearers, not so much the connotation of having achieved that by virtue of age.

Sorry for any confusion.

I was trying on some old skins and eyes yesterday and after settling on what I currently look like, I noticed I started smiling about every minute or so.

I have read the previous posts and tried relogging several times as well as wearing the stop animations. When wearing the stop animations it said 4 animations stopped. I watched while wearing the stop animations and I am still smiling. I have no AO attached.

I believe one of the items I tried on had some kind of animation for the smile, but I removed them all.

Anyone have any ideas how I can stop the smiling. Please keep in mind I am not as versed as on the inner workings of AO's and scripts as many of you seem to be.

I use a "Smile Moar" attachment, and it randomly smiles every 5-30seconds.

It is so cute. Also, it is the only way you can see my braces!

Are you really sure you have *all* attachments removed (not just AOs)? And you're not sitting on anything? (Attachments and sat-upon objects can automatically get permission to animate, without asking explicitly.)

If that's the case, something else in the sim (or its immediate neighbors) has permission to animate you. Might be a *dropped* (as opposed to detached) attachment, or some object you mistakenly gave explicit permission to animate you (a danceball with a sense of humor?). To make sure that's the case, you might try teleporting to a distant sim and (just to be sure) relogging. That should remove the smile, at least until you return to the sim that has the object with permission to animate you.

Sorry to but in, but what is an AO?
What does it stand for?

Animation Override.

AO's were created to allow avatars to take advantage of animations made that were outside the built in animation sets.

With an AO, you can replace the default standing animations, walking, running, flying, hovering, et al.

Animation Overrider.

It's a device, usually a HUD, that you wear. It replaces the goofy default avatar walks, stands, and sits with better ones.

You can get free, unloaded AOs, notably the ZHAO II and some modified versions, and load your own animations. Or you can buy pre-loaded ones from many different animation vendors.

[EDIT: Brianna beat me to it]

Izumi - if you logout and then log back in to a different sim, is the smile still there or has it gone?

If you find that the smile only runs when you are in your usual sim, it could indicate that the ao attachment (or a copy of it) has been rezd or dropped somewhere in the sim and you will have to hunt it down and delete it or take it back into inventory.

Read all your posts and didn't notice this as anything you'd tried yet: Try clearing your cache.

VIEW/PREFERENCES/Network tab: click CLEAR CACHE, then log out and back in.

If this was happening to me, I'd make sure I was home or somewhere private, remove everything (detach all, remove all clothing) and then clear the cache. Once I'd logged back in to my home, I'd work through each thing I reattached, making sure that something else wasn't also causing a random smile animation.

Worth a try anyway, hope it helps.

Thankyou Briana and Lindal
I've often wondered how they did that!

Thanks Qie. It appears to be something at the sim. I went elsewhere and it seems to have gone away. I appreciate the help. Thanks again.

Yep. the comma thing to run multiple animations in one go, and the | thing to pick a random entry, are actually carryovers from Wet Ikon.

One worthwhile change to make in those older scripts is to bump timerEventLength up to something reasonable. A lot of older copies have it set to 0.1 (not horrid, but probably more than our motion model can really make good use of) or even the insane 0.001 (more often than timers can actually fire). 0.2 to 0.25 is a good value.

If you just dropped it at home one way to find it and get rid of it is to turn on highlight transparent near where you were messing with it. The animation is probably in some kind of small invisible prim.