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Lindal Kidd

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12-07-2007 08:42

The Babbler, and the other language translators I'm aware of, don't work in no-script areas.

This is a big problem in places like Orientation Island.

Does anyone know of a translator that will function in no-script areas?

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Jezabell Barbosa

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12-07-2007 08:48

I dunno.

But I just want to say Hi.

Ronaldo McMahon

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12-07-2007 08:54

Hi Jezabell.

Sally Silvera

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12-07-2007 09:01

I would LOVE to know this too.

It bugs me no end that if I'm helping a new resident and taking them around for freebies and the like and need to use Babbler I have to keep on taking them back to my own place to explain stuff. Like how to open the box they just bought

The alternative of using a web translator slows things down too much IMHO.

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Ronaldo McMahon

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12-07-2007 09:02

Lindal you might want to check out http://www.translatorscafe.com/

Ceera Murakami

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12-07-2007 09:06

Is the sandbox area also no-script? You may be able to put on the Babbler there, then walk into a no-script area...

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Goshawk Oh

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12-07-2007 09:14

From: Ceera Murakami

Is the sandbox area also no-script? You may be able to put on the Babbler there, then walk into a no-script area...

Hi, I'm new to posting here-been in SL a while though. Babbler is an amazing tool-however I wear mine all the time but in a no script area it just doesn't function. It's not about being able to wear it-it's that scripts have to be on for babbler to work.

Viktoria Dovgal

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12-07-2007 09:14

One expedient is to get over 100 meters, scripts will work up there.

Are any of these translation tools open source?

Sally Silvera

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12-07-2007 09:16

From: Viktoria Dovgal

One expedient is to get over 100 meters, scripts will work up there.

Really?????? Wow

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Viktoria Dovgal

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12-07-2007 09:23

From: Sally Silvera

Really?????? Wow

Yeah, I rely on this one a lot, because sometimes my tail goes berserk after teleporting.

Goshawk Oh

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12-07-2007 09:24

It probably would be a good idea to get the attachment "flight feather" that will make flying & remaining at that altitude easier.

Sally Silvera

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12-07-2007 09:27

From: Goshawk Oh

It probably would be a good idea to get the attachment "flight feather" that will make flying & remaining at that altitude easier.

Should have said hi and welcome to the forum Goshawk

Actually I prefer my flight band, dunno why but it seems more stable. Also, flight feather got detached at random more often, which is kinda not so great when you live 500m up in the sky

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Kitty Barnett

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12-07-2007 09:42

Supposidly any script that uses "llTakeControls" should work in no-script areas as-is (or as someone else pointed out, simply fly up to 50m AGL).

Viktoria Dovgal

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12-07-2007 11:48

From: Kitty Barnett

Supposidly any script that uses "llTakeControls" should work in no-script areas as-is (or as someone else pointed out, simply fly up to 50m AGL).

Mm, it's even enough to get the controls permission, don't even need to actually take controls.

Darien Caldwell

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12-07-2007 13:17

And the function doesn't have to be in the script in question. Just drop in a scrip taking control permission, and all scripts in the entire object will run, although they are throttled back quite a bit.

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12-07-2007 15:15

I'll suggest takeControls for the next revision of Babbler if someone doesn't beat me to it

AFAIK none of them uses this trick ATM

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Crystal Falcon

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12-07-2007 17:41

From: Darien Caldwell

And the function doesn't have to be in the script in question. Just drop in a scrip taking control permission, and all scripts in the entire object will run, although they are throttled back quite a bit.

Are they in all places? I believe I'd read they just ran slower in no script areas? (Which feels logical...) I'd love to know which way it is if anyone has tested?

I've also seen that is not true of scripts in child prims of an object, and they will also throw up a permission blue box request if the object is attached, unlike scripts in the root prim.

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Lear Cale

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12-07-2007 18:18

Scripts in items you're wearing BEFORE you enter the script-prohibited region will continue to work. Note that your AO is still working?

I don't know whether this trick works with the other exception, which is moving up to 100M or whatever the limit is. In other words, if you go up and come back down, will scripts keep working? Easy to test.

Viktoria Dovgal

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12-07-2007 18:22

From: Lear Cale

Scripts in items you're wearing BEFORE you enter the script-prohibited region will continue to work. Note that your AO is still working?

Most AOs will work because they have obtained PERMISSION_TAKE_CONTROLS as mentioned earlier in the thread. Scripts that don't ask for this will eventually take a nap in no scrip areas.

From: someone

I don't know whether this trick works with the other exception, which is moving up to 100M or whatever the limit is.

Provided that the script gets itself that permission, yes it will start up there and keep working on the ground.

Angelique LaFollette

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12-07-2007 19:21

Just Open SL in a Window instead of full screen, Open an Internet page, Go to babelfish, and cut, and paste manually. it's a bit slower, But you can still Communicate.

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Crystal Falcon

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12-09-2007 15:32

I totally forgot to include in my post the other day, the Multi gadget has had Babelfish built into it for many versions now, and obviously works in no script areas (never mind being useful for innumerable other things as well of course!)

(Sorry, I so take it for granted! LOL)

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12-09-2007 16:17

You might find it useful to do Help / In-World Help . Then put translate.google.com into the url field.

You can copy and past text between SL and the In-World mozilla browser.

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translators in "no script" areas
Lindal Kidd Dances With Noobs Join date: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8,371	12-07-2007 08:42 The Babbler, and the other language translators I'm aware of, don't work in no-script areas. This is a big problem in places like Orientation Island. Does anyone know of a translator that will function in no-script areas? _____________________ It's still My World and My Imagination! So there. Lindal Kidd
Jezabell Barbosa Muah™ Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 896	12-07-2007 08:48 I dunno. But I just want to say Hi.
Ronaldo McMahon Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 77	12-07-2007 08:54 Hi Jezabell.
Sally Silvera live music maniac Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,325	12-07-2007 09:01 I would LOVE to know this too. It bugs me no end that if I'm helping a new resident and taking them around for freebies and the like and need to use Babbler I have to keep on taking them back to my own place to explain stuff. Like how to open the box they just bought The alternative of using a web translator slows things down too much IMHO. _____________________
Ronaldo McMahon Registered User Join date: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 77	12-07-2007 09:02 Lindal you might want to check out http://www.translatorscafe.com/
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	12-07-2007 09:06 Is the sandbox area also no-script? You may be able to put on the Babbler there, then walk into a no-script area... _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Goshawk Oh Registered User Join date: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 9	12-07-2007 09:14 From: Ceera Murakami Is the sandbox area also no-script? You may be able to put on the Babbler there, then walk into a no-script area... Hi, I'm new to posting here-been in SL a while though. Babbler is an amazing tool-however I wear mine all the time but in a no script area it just doesn't function. It's not about being able to wear it-it's that scripts have to be on for babbler to work.
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	12-07-2007 09:14 One expedient is to get over 100 meters, scripts will work up there. Are any of these translation tools open source?
Sally Silvera live music maniac Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,325	12-07-2007 09:16 From: Viktoria Dovgal One expedient is to get over 100 meters, scripts will work up there. Really?????? Wow _____________________
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	12-07-2007 09:23 From: Sally Silvera Really?????? Wow Yeah, I rely on this one a lot, because sometimes my tail goes berserk after teleporting.
Goshawk Oh Registered User Join date: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 9	12-07-2007 09:24 It probably would be a good idea to get the attachment "flight feather" that will make flying & remaining at that altitude easier.
Sally Silvera live music maniac Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,325	12-07-2007 09:27 From: Goshawk Oh It probably would be a good idea to get the attachment "flight feather" that will make flying & remaining at that altitude easier. Should have said hi and welcome to the forum Goshawk Actually I prefer my flight band, dunno why but it seems more stable. Also, flight feather got detached at random more often, which is kinda not so great when you live 500m up in the sky _____________________
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	12-07-2007 09:42 Supposidly any script that uses "llTakeControls" should work in no-script areas as-is (or as someone else pointed out, simply fly up to 50m AGL).
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	12-07-2007 11:48 From: Kitty Barnett Supposidly any script that uses "llTakeControls" should work in no-script areas as-is (or as someone else pointed out, simply fly up to 50m AGL). Mm, it's even enough to get the controls permission, don't even need to actually take controls.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	12-07-2007 13:17 And the function doesn't have to be in the script in question. Just drop in a scrip taking control permission, and all scripts in the entire object will run, although they are throttled back quite a bit. _____________________
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	12-07-2007 15:15 I'll suggest takeControls for the next revision of Babbler if someone doesn't beat me to it AFAIK none of them uses this trick ATM _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Crystal Falcon Registered Silly User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 631	12-07-2007 17:41 From: Darien Caldwell And the function doesn't have to be in the script in question. Just drop in a scrip taking control permission, and all scripts in the entire object will run, although they are throttled back quite a bit. Are they in all places? I believe I'd read they just ran slower in no script areas? (Which feels logical...) I'd love to know which way it is if anyone has tested? I've also seen that is not true of scripts in child prims of an object, and they will also throw up a permission blue box request if the object is attached, unlike scripts in the root prim. _____________________ TP to Crystal's Facets in world: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kress/120/5/146/ Shop my natural AO poses, clothing, tools with XStreet:
Lear Cale wordy bugger Join date: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 3,569	12-07-2007 18:18 Scripts in items you're wearing BEFORE you enter the script-prohibited region will continue to work. Note that your AO is still working? I don't know whether this trick works with the other exception, which is moving up to 100M or whatever the limit is. In other words, if you go up and come back down, will scripts keep working? Easy to test.
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	12-07-2007 18:22 From: Lear Cale Scripts in items you're wearing BEFORE you enter the script-prohibited region will continue to work. Note that your AO is still working? Most AOs will work because they have obtained PERMISSION_TAKE_CONTROLS as mentioned earlier in the thread. Scripts that don't ask for this will eventually take a nap in no scrip areas. From: someone I don't know whether this trick works with the other exception, which is moving up to 100M or whatever the limit is. Provided that the script gets itself that permission, yes it will start up there and keep working on the ground.
Angelique LaFollette Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,595	12-07-2007 19:21 Just Open SL in a Window instead of full screen, Open an Internet page, Go to babelfish, and cut, and paste manually. it's a bit slower, But you can still Communicate. Angel.
Crystal Falcon Registered Silly User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 631	12-09-2007 15:32 I totally forgot to include in my post the other day, the Multi gadget has had Babelfish built into it for many versions now, and obviously works in no script areas (never mind being useful for innumerable other things as well of course!) (Sorry, I so take it for granted! LOL) _____________________ TP to Crystal's Facets in world: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kress/120/5/146/ Shop my natural AO poses, clothing, tools with XStreet:
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	12-09-2007 16:17 You might find it useful to do Help / In-World Help . Then put translate.google.com into the url field. You can copy and past text between SL and the In-World mozilla browser. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -

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