Clothing Creation For Tines....Info anyone??

Hi all,

I've been searching for ages now, but I can't seem to find any tutorials etc on clothing creation for tinies...Would any of you wonderful people be able to point me in the right direction. I'd love to give this a try....

Thanks in advance....

I 've not seen any tutorials, but I'll tell you a bit of what I've learned through trial and error in the last couple of weeks.

Tiny clothing is all attachments. It's not like biggie clothing, you don't make it on the clothing layers, it has to be built from prims. I started by looking at a couple of free t-shirts, taking them apart and imitating them. Just work out what shape you need to make to cover the tiny body and go from there.

I found the best way was to make the basic prim for an item, get a rough size by rezzing it next to my AV and moving it to roughly where I wanted it. Then take it, attach it to where you want it to attach, and get the sizing/positioning just right. To add parts (buttons etc) you have to detach and rez because you cant add to the object while you are wearing it. I generally get the basic shape/size right, then add all the extra bits, then put it on and play around resizing/positioning parts through "edit linked prims". It's not quick, and the tiny will move slightly making it even more fiddly.


There are some problems with tiny clothes. Firstly because tiny bodies are all attachments as well, a lot of the attachment points may be used before you even get to put clothes on.

Secondly, because the actual AV body is deformed and crushed to get it to the right size, some of the attachment points aren't quite where you would expect them. In particular I've had trouble attaching things to hands. Fine when the AV is standing still, but as soon as you walk your attachment is wobbling around above your head. You must check the look of the clothes both standing still and moving around. You can get round these problems by using scripts I think, but that's beyond me.

Tiny bodies are proportioned very differently to biggie AVs. Short stubby arms and legs, and much thicker in the body. Sleeves and trouser legs will generally be too short to do much with them, and will often largely be hidden by the body anyway.

Finally remember that because all the tiny bodies are different sizes your clothes may not fit a different AV. I'm an otter, which is slimmer than a lot of other tiny AVs, ferrets are even slimmer than me, but hippos and elephants are much thicker in the body. If you are making to sell, then either you need different versions for different types of tiny, or you need to accept that your customers may have to modify clothes fairly extensively to get them to fit.

If you are used to the building tools it's not too hard to make stuff for tinies. The fitting can be a pain, but is really a case of trial and error and a lot of patience. I don't know about making things like flexi skirts, but I think you'd need to make them a bit stiffer than biggie ones, to avoid them drooping into the body. Most tiny skirts are not much more than frills anyway.

Hope that's useful, but I'm no expert and have just been playing at it for a couple of weeks. If you want a chat, IM me in world and we can experiment together .

Not sure where I saw it but there is a posing stand for tinies that might help.

Do things the same way hair makers do. Stand on the posing stand and position the prims on the body without attaching.

When its done link it up and work out the attachments.

I will ask around the family I think someone has one of these stands.

Sorry I can be more help.

I'm not a tiny clothing person, but there might be mannequins out there for tinies just like there are for big people. That way your av doesn't have to stand still (if that bothers you.) If there aren't tiny mannequins, well then hey, there's gotta be a market out there for them! Make some and sell them yourself!

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Here is example of texture mapping of clothes and make up on avatar that I have been texturing that is 0.010. The prims shapes were made by my friend. These aren't wearable though. I did face, make up and the bathing suit. The cleavage and body skin ton don't match I still need to tweak this.
This is just a learning experiment.
I have also built avatars. tiny .025 furries, prim pants, shirts,etc but it take lot of precise placement and lot can go wrong and it takes tons of practice then more practice, then more testing and correcting.
From experience and exploring prim clothes and tinies is the following that I am still struggling with and learned:
The shape must come with whatever prim outfit you make.
Placement must be absolutely crucial.
It easier to place the prim shapes versus entire outfit often unless you've got tons of experience.
Movement, animations, teleporting, and wearing prim outfits while building distracted can mess up the entire look and change the outfit.
What makes the outfit is the texturing, you need to know the exact place on the prim to make the texture right.

heya! I'll send you a Tiny posing stand. That should help, but yeah, you will need to walk around in your newly created clothes to be sure of the placement.

Thank you all so much for that great information.....you've been really really helpful.... As far as I can see, there's not much info on tiny clothing creation around. I also have another question for all of you.... Would you mind if I put all this great info into my blog, so maybe someone else who's interested in this aspect of clothing could get a few hints....and of course I'll give credit where credit is due!

Thanks again,
Pocket

PS: thanks for the posing stand Wynx, can't wait to try it.