OpenSIM Woes

Does anyone know the url for Second Life's inventory servers? I'd love to use my purchased items on my OpenSIM and I know a lot of others would, too. I'd be fine with their entire asset server attached to my sim. Making it easier for users to do this in exchange for control of the OpenSIM's economy would be a good way to solve the transition problem. So anyone have any ideas to get my SL assets through OpenSIM?

hmm.. I'm not at all sure that you'd be very popular with the creators who sold you the items in SL

*hmm* Nope.

It stands to reason that LL has no vested interest in connecting their asset system to the OpenSim grid. Heck, they have a much more vested interest in NOT doing it. Keep in mind, they don't own the OpenSim grid, thus make no money off of it. They have enough lawsuits for the content theft on their own grid...

Even if LL were to do connect the grids, you still wouldn't have the right to use your items on OpenSIM.

Try to understand this: You didn't purchase items, they just look like it when rezzed using 3D graphics. You purchased a license to use the objects, scripts, textures, etc. within SL. Worse (from your standpoint), the LL terms of service clearly say that the content creators keep whatever copyrights they may be entitled to, granting to LL only a license to use on LL servers. Thus LL doesn't even have the right to enable you to use stuff on other grids.

Content and content creators are the value commodities in virtual worlds.

Inworld prim based rights of distribution belong to the creators and LL has rights to every prim.
LL's role so far is primarily to keep its prims in its own world.
An owner of a creation has rights to use but not to take out of the world or distribute in any way unless otherwise granted by the creator. But even a creator of prim based items in SL does not have the power to grant a user to take a prim based item out of SL without LL's permission. The fact that it is being done all the time does not change the laws however.
If you use one of the available tools to remove items from SL nothing may happen.
However legally you will have broken a number of laws. And any of the people who do own actual rights to the creation may choose to sue you at any time.

In the case of 2d content or scripts or animations the creator holds all rights of distribution.
This still means that the user or purchaser of said items still needs the creator's permission to
remove them from SL.

Which bit of the policies are you basing this on? I'm not saying you're wrong -- I don't know -- but I'd like to study the text first-hand. And it seems counter-intuitive, since LL have made the prim-making tech open-source, that they would reserve rights to a particular set of prim configurations that they didn't design. Especially since, if I understand correctly, there is no way to transfer the actual object; all you'd really be transferring is information about how the prims were configured, to be used to build an identical copy on another grid with that grid's prims. Since that information is the intellectual property of the creator, I don't see where LL comes into it.

I don't build very often, but eventually I'll get around to releasing a few things, and when I do, I'd let to include a reasonable license-to-transfer. However, I understand that there's no real way to control what would happen to anything on another grid, so I'd be concerned about the textures, scripts, that my builds might contain. I'd probably avoid any scripts that weren't themselves free to use, but I don't think I could avoid textures.

I don't know where you get this. Nothing this specific is called out in the TOS anywhere that I've read. It makes some sense but I don't think the language goes that far. Even so, you can create 3D content for SL outside of SL and bring it in via any number of tools. If you logically own the copyright to the work you create that way, then it would follow that you could grant whatever rights you wanted to someone else. It would be the tools you'd use to get the content OUT of SL that would be against the TOS.

However, that doesn't make 100% sense either since progs like Second Inventory are allowed by LL. Which means that anything you have full perms on or that you are the creator of can be pulled out.

My thinking is that LL is already losing people thanks to overcharging for land. Heck, Furnation's shrunk in a way I don't like. Anyway, if there's an item anywhere on any grid someone wants to buy if Linden Labs has control of the economy there its all the more lindens bought and I'd be fine if they came directly from LL. Any transaction is better than none. They could make a lot of money if my requested features were premium options.

As for other grids using SL's asset server, its no different than connecting another computer to an iTunes account.

I see it as more like giving access to the entire iTunes database to an unmonitored source.

I think SL does have an interest OpenSim and other open source projects, in a roundabout way. The more of these there are that work reasonably well and produce occasional enhancements, the more chance that LL/SL based systems become established as the standard for virtual worlds on the net. It reduces the likelihood of competitors coming along with completely new systems that, while copying the idea of SL, are not based on it (e.g. Hipihi).

I'm talking about the way all the Gridnauts are setup. Login through SL and teleport like its just another piece of land. Land Linden Labs doesn't have to worry about overhead for. I've already tried to get OpebnSIM running according to the wiki and it just refuses to work. How do I get that to work in an easier way than the wiki explains?