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Catastrophic Recovery Feature

Yrrek Gran
Crackpot Inventor
Join date: 20 Oct 2006
Posts: 209
07-06-2008 13:06
I posted this in Feature Suggestions and believe it to be something of importance. I wonder if anyone else believes this to be of any value.

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Catastrophic Recovery Feature
I just witnessed my neighbor, delete an entire 1/8 sim of objects by turning on Auto Return. It seems that he had re-deeded the land to include his new GF.

Because of a lot of abandoned prim litter in our area, I suggested that he turn on Auto Return, not knowing that the land had been re-deeded!

Poof! Gone! I am devastated and embarrassed beyond belief.

How about a Restore feature to fall back on. I am sure many people have experienced this type of disaster.

If nothing else, at least add a failsafe like in the sell land feature that will require someone to verify what they are doing and possibly a warning depending on the perms of the land.

Any suggestions?

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If the Client can remember the last location you were at with a picture, I would think it would not be that difficult to remember the last state of your possessions.

Anyone with me?
Jeffrey Gomez
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Join date: 11 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,522
07-06-2008 13:08
Estate owners can occasionally poke a Linden or a grid monkey to have their land rolled back. I suspect this is a feature of concierge service as well.

As for a "parcel undo" (which is more in line with what you're asking), could be handy, but I'm not sure how easy that sort of thing is to automate at the parcel (instead of sim) level.
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Raudf Fox
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Posts: 5,119
07-06-2008 13:11
The problem with a restore feature involves those items that are non-copy but are trans. Imagine the havoc that would create...
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Tali Rosca
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Join date: 6 Feb 2007
Posts: 767
07-06-2008 13:17
It has nothing to do with the client remembering anything; those things are serverside.
Rollbacks to previous state *can* actually already be done, though it's generally only available to private sims on special requests.
The problem is, it's not entirely trivial to do. Imagine you putting down your new, expensive build, and then somebody else triggers a "recovery", restoring the land to how it looked before you put down your thing.
Or the other way around, which is actually a known exploit: You put down an expensive, no-copy thing, pick it up, and trigger a recovery to a point where it was still in the landscape. Now you have it both in the landscape *and* the version you previously picked up.
Rollbacks are very, very dangerous to do in general, because it breaks the synchronization that other parts of the program may depend on, and as such is generally only available to few users under very controlled circumstances.
So it is unlikely that a general "emergency restore" will be made available to the general public; any protection against such accidents would likely have to take another form.
Conifer Dada
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,716
07-06-2008 14:19
I lost my green Egotherapy Centre exactly the same way. I formed a group, transferred the land, turned on 1 minute auto-return and next thing everything disappeared.

But I set to and built a new, better replacement.

I agree - an 'undo' button would be useful for land settings.
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Claari Shepherd
Danri CEO and Designer
Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 170
07-06-2008 14:31
From: someone
I just witnessed my neighbor, delete an entire 1/8 sim of objects by turning on Auto Return.


They weren't deleted... they were Auto Returned to him but probably in one big lump of coalesced objects. Have him check his Lost and Found folder.. then rezz the last thing that was added to it.

As for Rollbacks... those are only available to Estate owners via Concierge service.. and even then the Lindens are hesitant to do so. Normally they only do it if you really mess up the terrain or something of that nature.
Tabliopa Underwood
Registered User
Join date: 6 Aug 2007
Posts: 719
07-06-2008 16:34
From: Claari Shepherd
They weren't deleted... they were Auto Returned to him but probably in one big lump of coalesced objects. Have him check his Lost and Found folder.. then rezz the last thing that was added to it. ...


Yes. That has saved me before with small builds. Haven't tried it with a large build but its worth investigating further I think.