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Okiphia Rayna
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11-27-2007 08:59
Heyas ^^
SO I've been working on a few prefabs, a couple fully furnished 512m plot ones that remain within the prim limit included... .and I remembered something someone said once..
Their words were to the effect that people don't want a budget prim build (Like a 512m bare bones build) but a larger, and more prim heavy build.
The difference being say, a small house with click to phantom doors vs. a 4000sq m plot castle with full size wooden swinging doors and portcullis and carpeted stairs and secret passages and such. (Still within prim limit, both I'll say partially furnished).
I was wondering what you guys prefer, and if that was true.
Would you prefer a non-furnished 15-30 prim build, a non-furnished 80-100 prim build, partially furnished, fully furnished.. what is it people like in general? And why... I can understand the lower prim reasoning, but high prim bare bones makes me wonder a little honestly.
So there ya go.. what's your answer? =P
EDIT:: I tried to add enough responses to cover a bit of ground lol... furnished and unfurnished can matter alot in my opinion...
And my response (I won't vote though.. I'd forget what I voted lol) is I like medium prims and furnished.. however, I don't buy prefabs, I build my own home... so.. oh well lol
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Claire Silverspar
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Join date: 31 Oct 2007
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11-27-2007 09:10
Okay I've stayed in the middle ground. It's unlikely that I will ever be able to afford a huge amount of prims so a low prim but high quality is great. But if I had enough prims I really would be that bothered about them. I prefer medium amount of prims as long as they are high quality, and partially furnished, so that I would have a home but also somewhere I could add that special touch to if I so wished but didn't have to go out hunting lots of decent furniture which fit the home.
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Amaranthim Talon
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Join date: 14 Nov 2006
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11-27-2007 09:20
Well- medium prim for me - and yes bare boned - I want to put what where. Some of the prefabs I was looking at yesterday I didn't choose because they came with a fireplace and that is exactly what I am trying to find an appropriate home for  - So far- I have a floor- it is very drafty with out walls...
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
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11-27-2007 09:36
i`d go for medium aswell to not sacrifice to much details with cutting and hollowing 10x10 prims but here`s an idea, make 3 versions of each house starting with a moderate prim build of the house as 1 version, strip it down as much as you can for a light version and then make a low furniture set to rez in 1 time to fit the house this will give some leaway(sp) for low prim, med prim and high prim(with furniture) 
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Kitty Barnett
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Join date: 10 May 2006
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11-27-2007 09:50
One of my houses is 910ish prims "bare" so I guess I'm "High prims, extreme detail/quality, bare ones"  . The house has a 40x40 footprint and a lot of those prims get used up by "non-functional" things like columns (7 prims each and a dozen of them or so), railing (120ish prims probably - do wish I'd find a similar sculpty shape to cut that in half  ), tatched roof (80ish prims), misc decorations (100ish prims), etc. You could probably strip half of those prims away, but then I never would have fallen in love with the house. *goes to hide in another thread before the prim-waste yelling crowd comes along  *
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Ceera Murakami
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11-27-2007 09:52
Very few buyers seem to want pre-furnished homes, just like in real life. A house that comes with all furniture included appeals only to someone who has nothing of their own yet. People with posessions want to put their own stuf in the place. So I generally wouldn't try selling pre-furnished homes, except maybe as a 512 lot starter house.
An exception mught be a specific themed build where the furnishings appropriate to the structure might be hard or impossible to find. For example, I built a Great Hall for a castle, and included the benches and trestle tables suitable to the room's ambiance.
If I were focussing on the prefab market, I would keep prim counts reasonably low, using custom textures and sculpties to make it look as good as possible. I would offer a range of detail, as well, so perhaps have a "Prim Budget Castle" that is low-prim, and a higher-quality version that uses more prims as needed to add value to the build.
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Okiphia Rayna
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Join date: 22 Sep 2007
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11-27-2007 09:53
From: Kitty Barnett One of my houses is 910ish prims "bare" so I guess I'm "High prims, extreme detail/quality, bare ones"  . The house has a 40x40 footprint and a lot of those prims get used up by "non-functional" things like columns (7 prims each and a dozen of them or so), railing (120ish prims probably - do wish I'd find a similar sculpty shape to cut that in half  ), tatched roof (80ish prims), misc decorations (100ish prims), etc. You could probably strip half of those prims away, but then I never would have fallen in love with the house. *goes to hide in another thread before the prim-waste yelling crowd comes along  * If you like I can come look at it and help you cut some of the prims down without losing quality.. some basic sculpties, especially on pillars can help, and not lose quality... for free of course lol But I personally have run out of prims like.. 10 times now lol (Up to 8.6km when I log in today, have a plot to buy, fially worked it out with the owner)
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-27-2007 09:56
Another thing, that has been mentioned a couple times here in this thread, that I was thinking about was doing multiple levels of detail.
However, I was thinking of selling them all in one bundle, not individually.
Such as.. hmm.. a low quality rez-faux, a medium quality rex-faux, and a high quality rez-faux all in one bundle, then another bundle for partially furnished of each.
Would that be good, or would it be better to sell each individually?
I was thinking as a bundle in case they ever decide to buy more land or something
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Hugsy Penguin
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11-27-2007 09:56
I voted for " Medium prims, high quality, bare bones". In reality, I'd say minimum to medium on the prims. There's no need to waste them if you don't have to, but I do like to have things look and operate somewhat normally. A door is a good example. I don't like the click-to-phantom doors. I'd rather use prims to have a door swing open and shut. But, the door itself only needs to be one prim. No need to make a prim door knob or window. From: Kitty Barnett *goes to hide in another thread before the prim-waste yelling crowd comes along  * LOL, no need for that. Smoke 'em if you got 'em! --Hugsy
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Kitty Barnett
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11-27-2007 09:59
From: Okiphia Rayna If you like I can come look at it and help you cut some of the prims down without losing quality.. some basic sculpties, especially on pillars can help, and not lose quality... It's the railing that bugs me most of all really, not the pillars  . It's a very basic shape (a cylinder with a sphere on top), but when it's repeated 60 times that comes to 120 prims  .
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-27-2007 10:01
From: Kitty Barnett It's the railing that bugs me most of all really, not the pillars  . It's a very basic shape (a cylinder with a sphere on top), but when it's repeated 60 times that comes to 120 prims  . Ouch... think I could help you if you like ^^ I'm not amazing with sculpties yet, but I can do that much I'm certain ^^
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Star Iwish
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Join date: 30 Jul 2007
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11-27-2007 10:06
I voted medium prims, high quality, bare bones. I personally like furnishing my own homes, and furniture shopping can be a bit tedious sometimes, but I enjoy it. Between my alt and I, we have 4 different sets of furniture. (I guess it's time for a yard sale...lol) But I think for 512 plots, low prim with some furnishings might be nice . That way someone can add their own touch, but maybe be able to stay within the prim limit. Frankly, I think 117 prims is obscenely low....but, hey, that's just me (a confessed prim addict) It would be a good idea to sell different prim versions of your homes, but I don't know that I would sell them all in a package. Or, offer them individually and as packages. Clothes designers do it, so why not do it for prefabs.
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-27-2007 10:09
From: Star Iwish I voted medium prims, high quality, bare bones. I personally like furnishing my own homes, and furniture shopping can be a bit tedious sometimes, but I enjoy it. Between my alt and I, we have 4 different sets of furniture. (I guess it's time for a yard sale...lol) But I think for 512 plots, low prim with some furnishings might be nice . That way someone can add their own touch, but maybe be able to stay within the prim limit. Frankly, I think 117 prims is obscenely low....but, hey, that's just me (a confessed prim addict) It would be a good idea to sell different prim versions of your homes, but I don't know that I would sell them all in a package. Or, offer them individually and as packages. Clothes designers do it, so why not do it for prefabs. ooh yeah.. individual and package probably then ^^ And I've proven it is possible to fully furnish a home in 117 prims and have it look good lol.. My first prefab fits a regular rectangle 512m plot perfectly (like 2m extra on each side lol...maybe) and it has a kitchen, a little living room/ sitting rooms area, and a bedroom, and doesn't look bad ^^ 113 prims lol
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Nic Writer
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Join date: 25 Mar 2007
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11-27-2007 12:34
Me, I'm a minimalist. I live on a 512 lot with three levels - a few Linden trees on the ground, my sky platform with a few stools and a couple of dances, and my skybox - and I still have prims left over, though I think holiday decorating is going to eat them... sigh.
To tell the truth, I'm just not THAT into the level of detail that eats prims, though I'm constantly amazed what can be achieved by texturing. (Not by me, though. lol)
As for furnished v unfurnished, I prefer to put in my own furniture. Though when I moved, I bought a copy of my skybox from my old landlord and I've found myself furnishing it almost exactly as he had it when I moved in! A compromise might be to provide a "gift pack" of furnishings that can be used if, and where, the buyer prefers.
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Sonia Nagy
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11-27-2007 12:41
I've voted for: low prims, unfurnished; mid prims, unfurnished; and high prims unfurnished - really depends on the plot of land and exact number of prims. And if there are furnishings, prefer if they are a separate unit of the house, so that they can be removed, like the kitchen section in one of the houses I bought.
I really dislike the builds that make the walls as thin as possible and allow property lines, and fuzzy views of the outside. The kind of walls where you put a picture up on the wall and it blinks at you because of the alpha thing or something. And you go outside and you see part of the back of the frame because the wall is so thin that you can't put a frame there without some bleeding through. Note: The frame is not actually on that side of the wall, it is just visible on that side because of the thinness of the wall.
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