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Tommy Rovio
Registered User
Join date: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 3
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08-19-2009 18:02
When I drop items and pick them up I lose rights? I dropped my AO and went to mod it but I no longer had mod rights. When I dropped a shoe and picked it up I no longer had copy rights. Is this just me or is other people getting this to?
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Naz Fride
21st Century Faux
Join date: 8 May 2007
Posts: 341
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08-19-2009 18:51
I don't know why this would be, but why are you dropping things to begin with? I NEVER drop anything that I own. If I want to stop wearing it, I detach it. I might as well not have a Drop command on my pie menu. I've never deliberately used it, and the last time I used it accidentally was 2 days after I started SL.
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Yummy Freelunch
rides the short bus
Join date: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 1,247
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08-19-2009 19:22
Strange, this happened to me last night too, after dropping some cuffs...I have no clue why it happened..but you arent alone
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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08-19-2009 19:59
No, it's not just you, and you're probably not actually losing rights.
This is related to something called "permissions baking", and it's kinda confusing. Rather than going into all the details, just rest assured that your item, while it may now appear "no mod", is actually still modifiable. It merely contains something that's no-mod, most likely the animations but also possibly scripts. You might say "Well, it contained that stuff before, but didn't say no-mod." And you'd be right, but for reasons you'd probably not want to bother reading through. If you rez your AO on the ground, you'll see that you can still modify it, adding or deleting contents, editing the prims, resizing it, or renaming it (even though you can't rename it in your inventory any more). This kind of thing can also happen with copy or xfer privileges, in which case you actually CAN lose that priviledge. If that happens, it usually means that the person who created the object goofed -- because something they meant to be no-copy or no-xfer is actually copy/xfer, and people can pass it out, as long as they don't rez it first. Oops, their bad. I've made this mistake myself once or twice (esp before I understood the rule: ALWAYS SET PERMISSIONS INWORLD, not in inventory, when preparing products for sale.) |
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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08-19-2009 20:03
I wonder if anyone's actually found a useful purpose for the "drop" pie menu.
I often find things in my shop that people have obviously dropped, and I clean up after them (ick -- the things people drop in my particular shop. Thank goodness for latex gloves.) I once had a skybox I shared with my gf. I noticed that I kept seeing floating text in the floor. I'd track the nearly invisible little object buried in my floor prim and delete it. But another would appear. As it turns out, my gf had a HUD that she'd "drop" to take off. Ack! That option needs to at least be buried several levels in the pie menu!. Sorry for the rant! |
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Shara Holiday
Magic Mischief Maker
Join date: 24 May 2005
Posts: 349
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08-20-2009 03:59
i have some things that were group owned. after the update last week . they all went to no perms so cant mod /copy/ trans / share with group nothing. ! until the actual one that owned them, comes and resets them, and that person wont be back for 3 months. lol.. so were all screwed up to use these items .
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Ephraim Kappler
Reprobate
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,946
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08-20-2009 05:22
I wonder if anyone's actually found a useful purpose for the "drop" pie menu ... I sometimes work at high altitudes in the Preview Grid, just floating there. The trouble is that an object will be returned within 15 minutes if I am not actually sitting on it. Since I can't rez a new copy in mid-air, I wear it instead and then drop it. So I guess it is handy although that's the only instance where I have used it. That option needs to at least be buried several levels in the pie menu!. I agree, it's the kind of thing we should really have to go out of our way to do. |
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Darion Rasmuson
Norsky
Join date: 21 Dec 2007
Posts: 431
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08-20-2009 05:27
15 min? Must depend on where you are while working... I have rezzed stuff, been idle an hour, worked on it, logged off, come back the next day and oops, there it still is, I forgot to de-rez...
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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08-20-2009 05:37
i have some things that were group owned. after the update last week . they all went to no perms so cant mod /copy/ trans / share with group nothing. ! until the actual one that owned them, comes and resets them, and that person wont be back for 3 months. lol.. so were all screwed up to use these items . if the are group owned rather then set to a group then you are screwed even when that person gets back, the problem is that when you deed to group you are nolonger owning it, this can be troublesome when you deed something that has next permision set to no transfer because there is no way to sell it back or return it to the last owner, returning a group owned object that is no transfer will delete it without any way to retrieve it. unless this has been fixed and the warning in the return dialog has not been updated yet. |
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Ephraim Kappler
Reprobate
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,946
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08-20-2009 05:42
15 min? Must depend on where you are while working... I could well be confused here: I was talking about Aditi. Are the Preview Grid and Beta Grid not the same thing? |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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08-20-2009 05:57
I wonder if anyone's actually found a useful purpose for the "drop" pie menu. _____________________
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Darion Rasmuson
Norsky
Join date: 21 Dec 2007
Posts: 431
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08-20-2009 06:00
I could well be confused here: I was talking about Aditi. Are the Preview Grid and Beta Grid not the same thing? I was talking of Aditi aswell. The place I usually wander to too work does not autoreturn. |
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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08-20-2009 08:49
Aha, a use for "drop"! No doubt that was the intended purpose all along.
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Darion Rasmuson
Norsky
Join date: 21 Dec 2007
Posts: 431
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08-20-2009 08:58
It's a nice place for building. *nods*
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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08-20-2009 09:05
Why do people hang out above 4K? Something cool going on up there that I'm missing? _____________________
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Damien1 Thorne
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,877
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08-20-2009 09:14
You are not cleared for that information. Haven't you showed him the secret ferret handshake yet? |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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08-20-2009 09:21
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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08-20-2009 09:21
Haven't you showed him the secret ferret handshake yet? ![]() _____________________
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Paul Wardark
Wait, what?
Join date: 10 Jan 2009
Posts: 383
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08-20-2009 17:34
Permissions have been breaking a LOT, for a lot of different reasons, since the new viewer was released. It's a definite issue.
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Looli Vella
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Join date: 9 Feb 2007
Posts: 148
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08-20-2009 18:09
I use drop when something I've bought turns out to be boxed. Surprise! Box on hand instead of hat on head = Drop.
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Shara Holiday
Magic Mischief Maker
Join date: 24 May 2005
Posts: 349
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08-21-2009 05:15
geezz.......! this is like 2006 when they had all the trouble with everything lol...rezzing, perms , sim crossings etc..... i think there scamming us by adding sims to servers and they cant take it or reducing existing servers so things like your data get mucked up. i have always supported the lindens and have never really had to many probs till the last few months. i bought a new island and it worked great. till they did a rolling update for the last viewer, then poof ! now its like a class 3. and itss not that i have overloaded it with scripts etc..... so you pay for that then you lose your inventory stuff. or group stuff....im starting to think ....... is it really worth it to spend all this money.. just to lose it with missing things crappy performance where more and more you lose things due to this bug or that bug. you would think it would be better by now.....
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Lear Cale
wordy bugger
Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
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08-21-2009 06:06
I use drop when something I've bought turns out to be boxed. Surprise! Box on hand instead of hat on head = Drop. ![]() Unfortunate that you can't "open" an attachment, though, or "copy to inventory" doesn't appear in the build/edit panel. |
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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08-21-2009 06:22
When I drop items and pick them up I lose rights? I dropped my AO and went to mod it but I no longer had mod rights. When I dropped a shoe and picked it up I no longer had copy rights. Is this just me or is other people getting this to? Maybe you dont deserve to have them. _____________________
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Shara Holiday
Magic Mischief Maker
Join date: 24 May 2005
Posts: 349
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08-22-2009 04:41
to funny Jig. lol......hes been bad. lol.....
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