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Mavourneen Montreal

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Join date: 9 Aug 2006

Posts: 6

05-18-2008 08:23

I'm having a problem with incessant crashing. It's brutal. It freezes my system and I have to shut everything down and reboot. I've uninstalled and reinstalled so now I'm stuck with the newest version and it crashes twice as often as the one I had previously. Is this an SL glitch? Will it pass? My friends don't seem to have this problem. Oh, yeah --I'm operating on Vista.

Any suggestions at all are appreciated.

Annabelle Babii

Unholier than thou

Join date: 2 Jun 2007

Posts: 1,797

05-18-2008 08:29

Try the Nicholaz viewer.

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Ann Launay

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Join date: 8 Aug 2006

Posts: 7,893

05-18-2008 08:36

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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

05-18-2008 09:41

It's useful to say exactly what version of SL you are using. You can find the version information in SL at Help / About Second Life, either at the login screen or once you get inworld.

Your video card make and model number, and the version for the video drivers might be useful

It might help to provide other system related info such as type of processor, amount of ram, etc.

The exact text of any error messages might be useful.

You might find some useful message in a log file called secondlife.log.

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Mavourneen Montreal

Registered User

Join date: 9 Aug 2006

Posts: 6

05-18-2008 10:09

From: Annabelle Babii

Try the Nicholaz viewer.

Good suggestion. Do you know if Nicholaz will work with the new update? SL won't let me in without downloading the latest version.

Nyoko Salome

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Join date: 18 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,378

05-18-2008 10:23

y'know i get the same way sometimes; what i do is:

1) clear cache (and i do it not by viewer button, but finding the cache folder on my drive and emptying it out manually.)

2) log in; type 'asdf' into the search box at the top of inventory.

3) DO NUTHIN' ELSE but wait for my inventory to refill. (im-ing and chatting is fine, but don't tp or 'move' around much at all.)

4) when inventory is fully refreshed, LOG OUT!!

(so that the browser has a chance to re-compact local drive files.)

5) then log back in and go about biz as usual.

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Memorial Dae

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Join date: 4 Jan 2007

Posts: 16

05-18-2008 10:59

It's all in the render....

My setup-

Custom built (for this test)3ghz quad 8g RAM twin 500G 7.5kRPM drives
1G PCI ethernet card. with full framing set to match internet connection.
8800 512M video card and a fresh Windows XP install fully patched.

Internet connection 14 down and 6 up Comcast (Houston Texas) Business class
*Speed is average of 3 test using speedtest via LA site*

TEST #1
Installed current SL client (Current DISTRIBUTION version) on new machine and ran in windowed mode

logging in to low traffic residential area with stable fixed content
20 seconds to load content in 96m radius setting
stayed at location for a total of 3 hours building
experienced freezing when spinning view occasionally
freezing never lasted more than a max of 10 seconds.
disconnected once while spinning - sent crash report.

TEST#2
running in windowed mode

logging into a sandbox sim
35 seconds to fully load content in 96m radius setting
stayed at location for a total of 2 hours building
experienced freezing when spinning view about once ever 2 -8 minutes.
Freezing at one point lasted 37 seconds.
disconnected a total of 6 times - sent crash report.

NOTE: every time I crashed it was when changing view and reloading OLD content

I noticed in the monitor windows that when spinning sometimes it was requesting to download and then downloading textures/content that had already been downloaded(culling gone wild?)

I also repeated this test on an older 2.6 duo 2 with 2g ram and a tiny hard drive that hasnt been defragged in a long time and a gt 7600 video card with simular results.

So if we log in and stay in one place then we are pretty safe but if we travel we are going to take a chance of freezing and perhaps even crashing.

TEST#3

Installed Current RC client with same parameters as above.

**CONSTANT CRASHES** every 5-10 minutes

However, camera spin/rotate induced lag frequency has now been reduced but the durration seems to be the same....Good job!

Malia Writer

Unemployed in paradise

Join date: 20 Aug 2007

Posts: 2,026

05-18-2008 11:02

From: Mavourneen Montreal

Good suggestion. Do you know if Nicholaz will work with the new update? SL won't let me in without downloading the latest version.

Nicholaz will not work with SL viewer 1.20 yet. However, the Nicholaz viewer is set up to work with older viewers and the mandatory update is disabled.

I am still running 1.18.x with the Nicholaz Bleeding Edge viewer (no Windlight) and 1.19 with the Nicholaz Eye Candy viewer (Windlight).

Here is the link to info and downloads of both Nicholaz and SL:
http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/

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Mavourneen Montreal

Registered User

Join date: 9 Aug 2006

Posts: 6

05-18-2008 11:38

From: Malia Writer

Nicholaz will not work with SL viewer 1.20 yet. However, the Nicholaz viewer is set up to work with older viewers and the mandatory update is disabled.

I am still running 1.18.x with the Nicholaz Bleeding Edge viewer (no Windlight) and 1.19 with the Nicholaz Eye Candy viewer (Windlight).

Here is the link to info and downloads of both Nicholaz and SL:
http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/

Thanks Malia. I downloaded 1.18.x and Nicholaz Bleeding Edge but SL won't let me in without downloading their latest version which puts me back where I was. Oh, well...I have some books I've been meaning to read.

Frustrated beyond belief
Mavourneen Montreal Registered User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 6	05-18-2008 08:23 I'm having a problem with incessant crashing. It's brutal. It freezes my system and I have to shut everything down and reboot. I've uninstalled and reinstalled so now I'm stuck with the newest version and it crashes twice as often as the one I had previously. Is this an SL glitch? Will it pass? My friends don't seem to have this problem. Oh, yeah --I'm operating on Vista. Any suggestions at all are appreciated.
Annabelle Babii Unholier than thou Join date: 2 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,797	05-18-2008 08:29 Try the Nicholaz viewer. _____________________ Deep inside we're all the same - we're an amorphous fog clouod.
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	05-18-2008 08:36 _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	05-18-2008 09:41 It's useful to say exactly what version of SL you are using. You can find the version information in SL at Help / About Second Life, either at the login screen or once you get inworld. Your video card make and model number, and the version for the video drivers might be useful It might help to provide other system related info such as type of processor, amount of ram, etc. The exact text of any error messages might be useful. You might find some useful message in a log file called secondlife.log. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Mavourneen Montreal Registered User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 6	05-18-2008 10:09 From: Annabelle Babii Try the Nicholaz viewer. Good suggestion. Do you know if Nicholaz will work with the new update? SL won't let me in without downloading the latest version.
Nyoko Salome kittytailmeowmeow Join date: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,378	05-18-2008 10:23 y'know i get the same way sometimes; what i do is: 1) clear cache (and i do it not by viewer button, but finding the cache folder on my drive and emptying it out manually.) 2) log in; type 'asdf' into the search box at the top of inventory. 3) DO NUTHIN' ELSE but wait for my inventory to refill. (im-ing and chatting is fine, but don't tp or 'move' around much at all.) 4) when inventory is fully refreshed, LOG OUT!! (so that the browser has a chance to re-compact local drive files.) 5) then log back in and go about biz as usual. _____________________ Nyoko's Bodyoils @ Nyoko's Wears http://slurl.com/secondlife/Centaur/126/251/734/ http://home.comcast.net/~nyoko.salome2/nyokosWears/index.html "i don't spend nearly enough time on the holodeck. i should go there more often and relax." - deanna troi
Memorial Dae Registered User Join date: 4 Jan 2007 Posts: 16	05-18-2008 10:59 It's all in the render.... My setup- Custom built (for this test)3ghz quad 8g RAM twin 500G 7.5kRPM drives 1G PCI ethernet card. with full framing set to match internet connection. 8800 512M video card and a fresh Windows XP install fully patched. Internet connection 14 down and 6 up Comcast (Houston Texas) Business class Speed is average of 3 test using speedtest via LA site TEST #1 Installed current SL client (Current DISTRIBUTION version) on new machine and ran in windowed mode logging in to low traffic residential area with stable fixed content 20 seconds to load content in 96m radius setting stayed at location for a total of 3 hours building experienced freezing when spinning view occasionally freezing never lasted more than a max of 10 seconds. disconnected once while spinning - sent crash report. TEST#2 running in windowed mode logging into a sandbox sim 35 seconds to fully load content in 96m radius setting stayed at location for a total of 2 hours building experienced freezing when spinning view about once ever 2 -8 minutes. Freezing at one point lasted 37 seconds. disconnected a total of 6 times - sent crash report. NOTE: every time I crashed it was when changing view and reloading OLD content I noticed in the monitor windows that when spinning sometimes it was requesting to download and then downloading textures/content that had already been downloaded(culling gone wild?) I also repeated this test on an older 2.6 duo 2 with 2g ram and a tiny hard drive that hasnt been defragged in a long time and a gt 7600 video card with simular results. So if we log in and stay in one place then we are pretty safe but if we travel we are going to take a chance of freezing and perhaps even crashing. TEST#3 Installed Current RC client with same parameters as above. CONSTANT CRASHES every 5-10 minutes However, camera spin/rotate induced lag frequency has now been reduced but the durration seems to be the same....Good job!
Malia Writer Unemployed in paradise Join date: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2,026	05-18-2008 11:02 From: Mavourneen Montreal Good suggestion. Do you know if Nicholaz will work with the new update? SL won't let me in without downloading the latest version. Nicholaz will not work with SL viewer 1.20 yet. However, the Nicholaz viewer is set up to work with older viewers and the mandatory update is disabled. I am still running 1.18.x with the Nicholaz Bleeding Edge viewer (no Windlight) and 1.19 with the Nicholaz Eye Candy viewer (Windlight). Here is the link to info and downloads of both Nicholaz and SL: http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/ _____________________
Mavourneen Montreal Registered User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 6	05-18-2008 11:38 From: Malia Writer Nicholaz will not work with SL viewer 1.20 yet. However, the Nicholaz viewer is set up to work with older viewers and the mandatory update is disabled. I am still running 1.18.x with the Nicholaz Bleeding Edge viewer (no Windlight) and 1.19 with the Nicholaz Eye Candy viewer (Windlight). Here is the link to info and downloads of both Nicholaz and SL: http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/ Thanks Malia. I downloaded 1.18.x and Nicholaz Bleeding Edge but SL won't let me in without downloading their latest version which puts me back where I was. Oh, well...I have some books I've been meaning to read.

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