Collecting Tier from Land Occupants
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Gusher Castaignede
SL Builder
Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 342
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02-06-2008 06:36
Hello all,
Whats the best convenient way to collect Tier from Land Occupants without the extra work for SIM owners? Is it possible to have a central pay system where all renters go to and pay? For examaple, if occupants wish to pay in Lindens is it possible to have them pay at one location without placing so many tier boxes all over te SIM? And can the syste, notify each occupant once next billing is due?
Any ideas and tip appreciated..
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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02-06-2008 07:15
From: Gusher Castaignede Hello all,
Whats the best convenient way to collect Tier from Land Occupants without the extra work for SIM owners? Is it possible to have a central pay system where all renters go to and pay? For examaple, if occupants wish to pay in Lindens is it possible to have them pay at one location without placing so many tier boxes all over te SIM? And can the syste, notify each occupant once next billing is due?
Any ideas and tip appreciated.. I did not bother with rental boxes and just asked my renters to pay me directly. Most paid on time and I rarely had to send out a reminder IM. But you could put an object anywhere on your land set to a certain amount and they could "buy" it and pay you. You could have objects set for the various amounts of rent due to you. If you go for an automated system, I hear the Hippo system is good. Even though you put the boxes on each parcel, you can hide the boxes in the cloudy sky and not have them litter the ground.
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Lucrezia Lamont
Neko Onmyoji
Join date: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 808
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02-06-2008 07:16
I'm of the "make it as easy as possible for the renters to rent" camp. Making a resident go to any place other than their home to pay seems a little "non service friendly" to me. I know that as a potential occupant, I'd raise a brow at that and not rent there (convenient for the landlord and inconvenient for the renter, what else does that say about future service?). But maybe you're full up already with long term residents -- in which case, maybe ask them what they want?
When someone leaves, you have to visit their former home and return any items they might have left behind, so you really can't avoid having to pay a visit to that parcel of land. Everything else can be set up and automated through the web with a HippoRent system. And yes, the Hippo system will notify when rent is due.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but that's my advice. Good luck.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
Owner, The Mall at Cherry
Join date: 18 Jun 2007
Posts: 4,500
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02-06-2008 07:31
Once you set up the Hippo boxes, you never have to touch them again. You can set them up to go very very tiny after they've been paid. It's an expensive system to start with but I've found it to be easy to use, my tenants like it, and it reminds them when the rent is due, so that I don't have to.
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,125
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02-06-2008 07:33
that`s exactly what i`ve made have a look if it suites you, http://demo.klsl.net/117/8d/239076/1.htmlyou can play with all options untill you`ve found a way to break it 
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Yosef Okelly
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 2,692
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02-06-2008 07:54
Just FYI, If you don't like the boxes floating around, I know the hippo rent boxes are copy and modify. You can change the size, shape, texture, both vacant and occupied. This way your pay box can be a mail box, a street sign, a lamp post, a bush, a rock or even a rabbit if you wanted. I would asssume most other vendor systems can do this as well.
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Gusher Castaignede
SL Builder
Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 342
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02-06-2008 10:17
Interesting replies all, I will look into all my options and perhaps even offer Paypal Subscriptions......
Alicia Sautereau@ Unique idea.....
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Raymond Figtree
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Join date: 17 May 2006
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02-06-2008 10:33
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Raymond Figtree
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02-06-2008 10:37
From: Yosef Okelly Just FYI, If you don't like the boxes floating around, I know the hippo rent boxes are copy and modify. You can change the size, shape, texture, both vacant and occupied. This way your pay box can be a mail box, a street sign, a lamp post, a bush, a rock or even a rabbit if you wanted. I would asssume most other vendor systems can do this as well. As David Lindley sang: Pay the mail box, a street sign, a lamp post, a bush, a rock or even a rabbit Everybody's got to pay the mail box, a street sign, a lamp post, a bush, a rock or even a rabbit And before you leave this world You got to pay, pay the mail box, a street sign, a lamp post, a bush, a rock or even a rabbit.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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02-06-2008 10:42
Remember if you take Paypal, that will be USD income. Which is fine if you cash out and pay taxes anyway, so long as your parcel tier payments to the Company are indisputably deductible as expenses. It might be kinda tough to declare what may be construed as a 'video game membership' as a valid expense for an individual. Income in the US is often presumed by the IRS to be wage income by default (thus requiring medicare, social security payments: federal forms 940, 941) unless you can prove otherwise - burden of proof is on you. Because there have been too many people historically trying to get out of such payments by describing their income as something else. You might not trigger anything so long as you aren't making maybe more than 600 USD a year (I'm not sure the amount) but about the biggest red flag you can wave at the US IRS is 'oh look, people magically start paying me for nothing obvious, and keep doing it!' Both income and expense declaration are potentially a big can of worms. I don't mean to dissuade you - just make it very clear that suddenly discovering the 'game' is no game at all to a tax revenue board might be icky, later on. I'll bow out now, before I start misrepresenting myself as someone who could tell anyone definitively what their proper course of action should be.
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
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02-06-2008 10:46
From: Gusher Castaignede Alicia Sautereau@ Unique idea..... thanks  From: Raymond Figtree The secret's out! been out for awhile ok... only 2 weeks or so 
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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02-06-2008 10:46
Hippotech and Apez both send messages to tenants. You can put the rental boxes on the plot or you can put them in a central location, I use both setups but I think it depends upon how many tenants you've got.
The convenience of being able to manage hippo and Apez from websites makes things a lot easier for me.
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Cunundrum Alcott
A Sardonic Pessimist
Join date: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 773
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02-06-2008 10:55
I found this cool little gizmo for land that is not subdivided it uses one central land deeded object then everyone gets a remote and they click the remote and it tells them how much prim they have used. I know that is a little off the subject but it was such a help to my tenants.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
Registered User
Join date: 8 Oct 2006
Posts: 601
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02-06-2008 10:58
www.jacksonrickenbacker.com ASMS is full automated system. Land owner tracking, billing, automated fee messages, resident account login, payment gateways in world, paypal IPN. automatic account updates. All information about your land, residents parcel flags is automatically retrived from devices inworld ASMS allows your residents to buy, sell, divide and join land without any hassle to you the estate owner. Developed by real world accounting software developers with years of expereince developing various software like Great Plains (MSFT Dynamics GP) and Peachtree Service is offered for 15 USD per month per sim managed. Currently we are managing 104 sims under beta release I like the clean look of Alicia's system, but when it comes to having large amounts of residents that you need to keep track of, non-manual data entry, and information history, you simply must automate most functions IM me inwold if your interested in giving yourself back free time to enjoy SL
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Atashi Toshihiko
Frequently Befuddled
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 1,423
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02-06-2008 12:14
I've always gone with my residents just paying me directly via my profile. It's easy and they can do it from anywhere. When I first set up I offered PayPal as an option, but nobody wanted it so I've since removed it. I prefer doing business in L$ anyhow, it is a lot less work to sell the L$ on the Lindex then it's just automatically there when LL wants their fees.
I have toyed with the idea of setting up some kind of 'rent-o-matic' that would allow people to pay-the-box but if I ever did that, it would be purely optional, like if some people felt more comfortable transacting that way, so they'd get something in chat or IM thanking them for their payment etc etc.
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