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Baseless rumour or shocking truth?

Elanthius Flagstaff
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06-12-2009 06:44
https://blogs.secondlife.com/message/4684#4684

From: TumbleWeed Loopen

Does anyone know anything about Jack being fired? I talked to a couple of people with displays at the Land Expo who seemed pretty sure he was fired a couple of weeks ago. They claim also that his job post is open. They also felt very strongly that the teen grid merging in the end of all this is absolutely LL's plan.

I know that won't surpirse a lot of you,, or me, if I think about it enough but still, the idea chill my marrow.
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06-12-2009 06:52
i heard someone was let go a couple weeks ago..i can't remember who though off hand..
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06-12-2009 06:56
From: Ceka Cianci
i heard someone was let go a couple weeks ago..i can't remember who though off hand..

Prospero Linden was fired a couple weeks ago.
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Nika Talaj
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06-12-2009 06:58
Jack's profile is intact. However, LL posted a job with his job title a little over a week ago:
http://lindenlab.hrmdirect.com/employment/view.php?req=34608

This was mentioned on the Second Thoughts blog, which might be the source of the rumor.

If he HAS left, he doesn't have to have been fired, you know. I can't imagine any more thankless job than implementing some of LL's land policies. And the level of screaming from residents, gah!

Probably the only type of person who could find out directly from LL is a major land baron.

:) Let us know when you find out!
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06-12-2009 07:00
Hi Elanthius! Jack Linden was in world yesterday.
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06-12-2009 07:01
Was he doing something about land?

Pep (That would be gardening leave then? :D )
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06-12-2009 07:01
From: Cerise Sorbet
Hi Elanthius! Jack Linden was in world yesterday.


OK, that's partly what I was shooting for. Sadly I forgot about his office hours yesterday and was hoping someone here had attended.

of course he could have secretly been given 4 weeks notice or something but it seems pretty implausible.
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06-12-2009 07:19
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
of course he could have secretly been given 4 weeks notice or something but it seems pretty implausible.
Or, he could be moving on to something else within the lab after they hire a replacement and train them up. Or, they could be hiring a second Director of Community Relations with a different sphere of responsibility. It's not at all uncommon to do that.

*shrugs*
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06-12-2009 07:44
Qie posted an extract from Jack's office hours. My impression is that it was from yesterday, but it could have been an old extract.

ETA:
It was from yesterday's office hour, so it doesn't look like he was fired a couple of weeks ago - not instantly, anyway.
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06-12-2009 07:47
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
OK, that's partly what I was shooting for. Sadly I forgot about his office hours yesterday and was hoping someone here had attended.
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Qie_Niangao/Jack_Linden_Office_Hour_Transcript/2009-06-11 Note that the blog poster cited in the OP was at that office hour, a day before the post. So... not sure what she means by the post.

Perhaps the theory is that LL fires its employees in the same timely fashion with which it upgrades the Forums: "You're fired. Please leave real soon now, mkay?"

:confused:

[ETA: Jack was at the San Francisco office yesterday, and I think all week. I'm wondering if it's possible that Jack and Prospero were somehow confused by somebody? Also, Prospero's abrupt departure is evidence of... oh, screw it, I don't know that it's evidence of anything.]
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06-12-2009 07:51
they need to fire the old SLX staff and replace them with docile cooperative and appreciative company people. Maybe I will apply for a high level job with LL, get hired and do it myself haha
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06-12-2009 08:44
He did indeed have his office hour yesterday, and it was business as usual. He is in the SF office all month.
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06-12-2009 08:48
From: Qie Niangao
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Qie_Niangao/Jack_Linden_Office_Hour_Transcript/2009-06-11 Note that the blog poster cited in the OP was at that office hour, a day before the post. So... not sure what she means by the post.

Perhaps the theory is that LL fires its employees in the same timely fashion with which it upgrades the Forums: "You're fired. Please leave real soon now, mkay?"

:confused:

[ETA: Jack was at the San Francisco office yesterday, and I think all week. I'm wondering if it's possible that Jack and Prospero were somehow confused by somebody? Also, Prospero's abrupt departure is evidence of... oh, screw it, I don't know that it's evidence of anything.]



If you read between the lines of that Office Hours transcript, it become pretty clear that Jack is in fact gone at this stage.


"[11:06] Jack Linden: hey folks, sorry for the tardy timekeeping.
[11:07] Jack Linden: I'm enjoying the san francisco lifestyle Uni!"

See? Moved to SF and went native. No longer performing. Timekeeping gone to pot (so to speak) and not trying to hide his new extreme laid-backness
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"[11:09] Jack Linden: Qie, is this folks that haven't paid for a while?"
...No pay packet for you this week Jack!

"[11:09] Jack Linden: yeah we're actually looking at that right now. i think we zap stuff a little too quickly at the moment"
...They just zapped him out of the blue (haze)
"[11:10] Jack Linden: so i'm thinking of changing that and adding more warning emails"
...but his lawyers are on it.

"[11:14] Jack Linden: someone has an open mic by the way. I hear breathing! :)"
That's not an open mic. That's the HR guy and two heavies from security breathing down his neck.

"[11:24] Jack Linden: I could go on but you get the idea"
... Yeah, we get the idea. You can't go on - because they just fired your ass.

"[11:27] Jack Linden: Pamela, as i said, I can't really review your avatar in my office hours."
Ha! A female flashes some bondage gear at him, and he strongly hints that he can see her later. The guy is out of control!! Little wonder he's out.


"[12:01] Jack Linden: okay guys, I have to run now. thank you all for coming along!
[12:02] Jack Linden: byeeee"
Well, that pretty much makes it plain.
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06-12-2009 08:51
People are putting two and two together and coming up with five.

The position of Director, Customer Relations, is indeed being advertised:

http://lindenlab.hrmdirect.com/employment/view.php?req=34608

This person will be working for Jack, maybe that's why he's in SF right now, sorting this position out.
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06-12-2009 09:49
From: Sling Trebuchet
If you read between the lines of that Office Hours transcript, it become pretty clear that Jack is in fact gone at this stage.....
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06-12-2009 10:19
There was a second Linden at the meeting yesterday as well, I forget the name, but he just stood there silently the whole time observing...
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06-12-2009 10:33
Geo, he made one comment along the lines of not needing to type or something.
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06-12-2009 10:48
From: Dytska Vieria
There was a second Linden at the meeting yesterday as well, I forget the name, but he just stood there silently the whole time observing...


I've noticed this at other meetings lately too. Then again, I've also noticed a lot more "group office hour" ideas.
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06-14-2009 00:27
To answer the OPs question, this off of Twitter tonight...

jacklinden: haha noo, i am very much still at the lab, but i am hiring a Director to help the dept. :). Where do these rumours come from??
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