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Blot Brickworks
The end of days
Join date: 28 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,076
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10-30-2008 20:13
Checked out the building forum but can't find an answer so .When I finally got back on tonight after stop start and messing about,I uploaded a simple sculpty star.Rezzed it ,copied it and textured it ,job done.I walked away,looked back to admire my work and the star had gone misshapen.I know this can happen to sculpties but I was only 10 ish meters away.I have freebie sculpty rocks that do not behave that way.I am not a sculpty lover or an expert.Did I do something wrong?Is there a setting to improve the look.I used an open source program.Maybe sculpties come in different qualities.Can anyone advise please.
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Maya Remblai
The one with pink hair.
Join date: 25 Mar 2006
Posts: 434
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10-30-2008 20:49
Did it go back to normal when you got closer? If so, you've simply run afoul of LOD. It doesn't just eat regular prims, it makes sculpties look bad too. There are ways to optimize a sculpt and protect it from some of this, but mostly it's just SL. I'm not sure on how to help though. You might try using a higher density mesh (more polygons)
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Blot Brickworks
The end of days
Join date: 28 Oct 2006
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10-30-2008 21:19
Yes it went back to normal ,maybe I will try more.Thanks
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Arcane Clawtooth
5 By 5
Join date: 7 Jan 2008
Posts: 201
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10-30-2008 21:23
Basically, LL decided to set the value for renderVolumeLODFactor waaaaay too low, go into Debug Settings and set it to 5.0, then all sculpties will look better
 I really should open up a JIRA about that someday. _____________________
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Rhaorth Antonelli
Registered User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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10-30-2008 22:09
Basically, LL decided to set the value for renderVolumeLODFactor waaaaay too low, go into Debug Settings and set it to 5.0, then all sculpties will look better I really should open up a JIRA about that someday. awesomeness, ty, I just set mine to 5 and it helps a lot _____________________
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Blot Brickworks
The end of days
Join date: 28 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,076
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10-30-2008 22:12
Basically, LL decided to set the value for renderVolumeLODFactor waaaaay too low, go into Debug Settings and set it to 5.0, then all sculpties will look better I really should open up a JIRA about that someday. Good grief! What an improvement it now seems stable.Wow.Thank you so much,maybe that's why I never felt happy with sculpties.You are right,this should be common knowledge.Once again cheers _____________________
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Chosen Few
Alpha Channel Slave
Join date: 16 Jan 2004
Posts: 7,496
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10-30-2008 22:33
Good grief! What an improvement it now seems stable.Wow.Thank you so much,maybe that's why I never felt happy with sculpties.You are right,this should be common knowledge.Once again cheers Just be aware that since it's NOT common knowledge, other people will see your star just as messed up as you did before you changed the setting. If you don't mind that, fine, but if you're concerned about how your stuff looks to others, you'll have to "LOD-proof" the sculpty itself, not just mask the problem by adjusting your viewer. That said, Arcane is absolutely right. The default setting is absurdly low. You can thank a few loudmouthed sculpty abusers for that. It used to be higher, but all it took was for a few people to do some harebrained things like building a giant multi-million-polygon tree out of hundreds of little pillow-shaped sculpties, and then blaming the system when everyone's FPS in a 2-sim radius dropped to single digits. LL chose to responded to such reportings of "sculpty lag" by nurfing render settings, rather than by taking steps to educate the public on why and how to build more responsibly. |
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Blot Brickworks
The end of days
Join date: 28 Oct 2006
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10-30-2008 23:20
Just be aware that since it's NOT common knowledge, other people will see your star just as messed up as you did before you changed the setting. If you don't mind that, fine, but if you're concerned about how your stuff looks to others, you'll have to "LOD-proof" the sculpty itself, not just mask the problem by adjusting your viewer. That said, Arcane is absolutely right. The default setting is absurdly low. You can thank a few loudmouthed sculpty abusers for that. It used to be higher, but all it took was for a few people to do some harebrained things like building a giant multi-million-polygon tree out of hundreds of little pillow-shaped sculpties, and then blaming the system when everyone's FPS in a 2-sim radius dropped to single digits. LL chose to responded to such reportings of "sculpty lag" by nurfing render settings, rather than by taking steps to educate the public on why and how to build more responsibly. Yes I figured that.Had a quick look in the wiki but could not find anything on LOD-proofing.So I will have to adopt the "out of sight out of mind"approach for the time being.I could always put up a sign clueing my punters in,for a small fee of course. LOL _____________________
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Arcane Clawtooth
5 By 5
Join date: 7 Jan 2008
Posts: 201
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10-30-2008 23:24
Also, be aware that you will need to change this every once in a while since the viewer likes to "fix" it for us by setting it back to the default at random logins.
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Drifter Dreamscape
Registered User
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 182
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10-31-2008 02:20
Blot,
Check out the following tutorial which goes into some detail about LOD. It may help your understanding. http://blog.machinimatrix.org/2008/06/04/precision_sculpties_lod/#more-14 There are also a few threads in the Building Forum which have reference to the issue and in particular Domino Marama may offer some insight - he's helped me tons in understanding sculpties. Good luck. Drifter |
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Domino Marama
Domino Designs
Join date: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,126
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10-31-2008 02:33
You could also vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-9384 where we are trying to convince Qarl Linden to make changes that will make controlling LOD much more effective on oblong sculpties.
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Blot Brickworks
The end of days
Join date: 28 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,076
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10-31-2008 04:05
You guys are very helpful and thanks , I will indeed check out all the stuff you mentioned. Cheers Blot
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