SL snapshots user rights?

Ok...enough about shapes. LOL

I've been pondering this issue for a while and though I suspect, as an artist, the work I do with my SL photos is 'mine'.... I still wonder about our rights in that respect. Does anyone have any ideas on this. Lets say, for example....I make some really cool images that I've done some photoshop editing to.....and I then use these images to make...oh say something benign like a greeting card. Are we breaking any particular codes by using art we create from SL images in our own seperate works or publications?

I want to believe that just like IRL.....photography in SL is the soul material of the photographer and we would have what ever rights apply IRL to those images. But, do we? Has this ever come up? I know folks use images on blogs and different web sites....but I'm referring to actual reproduction and sales in some context...be it framed works of art of images used along with some kind of publication.

The exact details would take a while to go over without making some sort of mistake, but in general, take any sort of picture and do what you want with it and it will be fine. There are very few situations where you would have a problem.

There was an adfarmer that brought up this issue when someone created a grief-build site and posted about it here. I think most people agreed that the rights were with the picture taker for fair use.

Plus, the adfarmer was using someone else's copyrighted logos in images that were in the pictures that there were claims against.

Double-whammo! (^_^)

That would have been me.

Well, I was not the adfarmer, obviously, I was the person who took the pictures. They did file a DMCA to Flickr and... well, it is a long story, but basically I was absolutely in the right, and if adfarms hadn't been banned _anyway_ I would have gotten around to counterfiling, it isn't really that arduous.

i wonder if someone takes a picture of me and i tell them to stop taking pictures of me if it is breaking any rule..i had this one jerk that when i told him to stop he just started clicking more and more..
now i do some modeling from time to time and to me they should be asking my permission..

If they are harassing you by following you about taking pictures, that is against ToS; just taking a picture isn't, necessarily.

I don't think you'd have any issues with LL, but depending on what you're photographing you might need to get permission from the creators of assets in your photos, such as skins, clothing, builds, etc. IANAL, but it seems to me if your photo was a closeup of an avatar face and they were wearing a skin made by someone else it could possibly considered a derivative work.

Well due to these startling revelations I must now insist that NO ONE dare take any snapshots of me, including any shot of a crowd I might be in, without my prior express written consent as I might one day be a male model and any photos of me would then have obvious value. This is a serious matter people, and it must be treated as such!

my point was the guy was an irritating ass and wouldn't stop following me taking pictures because he knew it was bugging the crap out of me..

what is the difference if i create an avatar with my own skills vs someone that creates a club using their own textures someone comes in takes pictures and sells them?
i mean i created it right? it's not as dumb of a question as you may think really..

LOL

Right...note to self...stay away from those self important model types. Actually the work I do involves only my avatar because I pretty much make any character I need anyway. And...because of photoshop editing on many images, it may not necessarily be obvious what skin is being used. But...my basic question has been answered and I appreciate that....thanx.

With regards to anyone else who might wind up in something I include in works I sell....I would tell them anyway and I would never use any kind of image that someone asked me not to, for whatever reason. I wouldn't do that with my RL photography, and I wont do it here.

in the debug menu (whatever they call it in your version of the client) there's an option "Quiet snapshots to disk".. if you use the "CONTROL-TILDE(~)" method of snapping pics, you won't make the camera sound, or the animation, and the subjects of your photography will not be alerted to the fact you are snapshotting. If you use the "Snapshot" panel... you'll make the sound even if this "quiet" feature is turned on.

It's useful to know, if you're documenting people performing content theft in a sandbox.. which ways you can take snapshots and not get into a big issue.

By the way.. right clicking an object and selecting inspect, now DOES create a selection beam.. which makes it more obvious to the potential theif that someone is "checking out what they're doing"... so be warned. Inspecting stuff can now get you shot at.

i'm not a model i said i do some here and there..mainly just for friends and may have done a couple shoots..
the guy that was following me was from a modeling agency..
they make money from pictures they take from girls by selling the images to companys..they photochop you and put you in their products and use them or put you in places you were never at..
I could care less if they take pictures i just hate when people know something bugs the crap out of you and they keep doing it over and over a flaunting it at you thinking you can't do anything..

i asked this guy to stop and he kept going even as i walked away..
he would fly past and come twards me typing in chat LOL took another one ceka hahaha

it's also irritating when a girl mentions the word modeling that it overtakes the actual question and she is then looked at as a bimbo..

I ran into a situation concerning content and snapshots and re-use of them. I went onto Deviantart.com a while back to find pictures of my product(s) on this site by another user and a client in SL.

I had and still have no problem with posting of my content on sites in general, but in this particular case this person was selling these images as RL prints through Deviantart.com at about $12.50 a pop. This clearly (imo) violated my re-use and imagery terms as well as end user agreement (especially since this person never had the decency to contact me for permission before hand asto their intention in using my content).

So, say you have a snapshot of your avatar featuring other content creators works within it. I think it's fine to generally share with others. but to profit directly off the work even as a re-work in PS or any editor as an art piece is still questionable.

I even goto the trouble of contacting Sim owners ahead of time if I am taking pics to be clear on their policies, especially if their Sim has custom textures on the land and builds that they do not want strewn all over the internet. None have had a problem with me taking snapshots in their areas and were grateful that I atleast contacted them ahead of time.