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Princess Ivory
SL is my First Life
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 720
10-06-2007 08:18
How do you handle adding people to your group after they have rented land from you?
Which permissions do you give them?

Do you allow them to add people to the group, so their friends/partners can use the rental house and land as well? Do those people get the same permissions, or are they a separate category?

I'd appreciate it if some of you could give a list of the permissions you all for the above situations, and any other advice you can offer about what works, and what DIDN"T work for you with your tenants.

Thanks!
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Ricky Yates
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Join date: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 809
10-06-2007 08:58
Speaking as an ex-landlord (ex due to VAT) with good experience in managing my tenant group, I did it the following way:

* Open enrollment (Yeah, a bit risky, but saved a lot of work for me.)
* $1 enrollment fee This allowed me to track joiners in my transaction history.
* Friends of tenants were free to join. Once a month I checked the list and weeded out non-paying members not associated with a tenant. I had tenants and friends all in the same role. Why not? I kept the list of tenants themselves in my Hippotech server anyway.

Allowed abilities for tenants (all others disabled - I used the 'Everyone' role to prevent the need for me manually changing people to a specific role):

* Parcel Identity
** Change parcel name ...
** Set landing point ...

* Parcel Settings
** Set music ...

* Parcel Powers
** Always allow 'fly'
** Always allow ' Create Objects'
** Always allow 'Create landmark'
** Allow 'Set Home to here'

* Parcel Access
** Manage parcel Ban lists
** Eject and freeze Residents (I had to disable that once when a n00b tenant ejected other tenants from his parcel. Can't have that between neighbours.)

* Parcel Content
** Return non-group objects
** Landscaping using Linden plants

* Object Management
** Deed objects to group (needed for radios & security devices)

* Notices
** Receive Notices

* Proposals
** Vote on proposals

I also had a "Builder" role with additional 'Edit Terrain' rights. Tenants got that temporarily on request when they wanted to remodel their parcel.

Hope that helps :)
Raymond Figtree
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Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
10-06-2007 09:27
My sim manager has almost all my permissions as owner and she is around a lot so she can add residents or their friends. I do not have open enrollment.
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Ricky Yates
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Join date: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 809
10-06-2007 10:33
From: Raymond Figtree
My sim manager has almost all my permissions as owner and she is around a lot so she can add residents or their friends. I do not have open enrollment.
If you have a sim manager (which I didn't) then adding members by invitation only is definitely the better choice.
Princess Ivory
SL is my First Life
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 720
10-06-2007 11:09
From: Ricky Yates
If you have a sim manager (which I didn't) then adding members by invitation only is definitely the better choice.


I agree, and that is how I would like to to it.

How do I handle them wanting their friends added? What permissions to they get? And how do I know, after the tenant has moved out, that their friend no longer belongs in the group?

Princess Ivory

Thanks for the input - it if very helpful.
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Ciaran Laval
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
10-06-2007 11:13
I give friends the same rights as the tenant. The only way I keep track though is to note down who requested a friend to be invited.
Ricky Yates
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10-06-2007 11:23
From: Princess Ivory
How do I handle them wanting their friends added? What permissions to they get? And how do I know, after the tenant has moved out, that their friend no longer belongs in the group?
Well, I just archived the e-mails with the names in it (I have my IMs forwarded to e-mail when offline) and thereby kept the reference. Usually tenants ask to have somebody added.

Every 2-4 weeks I went through the list and IM'ed any "friend" I didn't know about. If there was no reaction to my IM after 24 hours, I kicked them off the tenant group.

If you keep contact with your tenants (which I did *waves in Har's direction*) you get to know who is hanging out there.

As for permissions, I gave them the same as any other tenant. Mostly they were partners (personal or business), so any differentiation in terms of permissions would have been cumbersome for them. To me, the paying tenant always was responsible for his friends. I never had an issue which would force me to differentiate between paying tenants and their partners/friends.
Sy Beck
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Join date: 9 Feb 2007
Posts: 202
10-06-2007 13:03
My system is pretty much the same as Ricky's except there is no open enrolment for group membership, the 'everyone' category.

Once somebody starts their tenancy they are a given a 'resident' role/tag which gives them virtually the same powers as Ricky's outlined and also allows them to invite their friends/guests into the group at the 'everyone' level. That way, I or my estate managers have only to keep an eye on the resident members while they take care of their friends/guests needs.

By the way I assign no abilities to the everyone role apart from the being able to rez objects, run scripts and create landmark abilities.