lockguard vs lockmeister cuffs

Hello, in the bdsm sl world there are 2 common sets of cuffs, lockguard & lockmeister, both free. Why do we need 2 different types. ? Why do the tables, crosses, etc that I am chained to not tell me which I need before I 'sit' ?

Thanks

oxy

PS can someone come and unchain me pls

Same reason why there's Coke and there's Pepsi, but both taste the same. Somebody made some cuffs and it's your responsibility to use theirs, so they can be the industry leader. The fact that the cuffs are free just enables them to leverage them into money other ways. If you were using the right set of cuffs and the right toys that work with them you wouldn't have this problem.

As for unchaining you, why would I want to do that? You look much better chained up, I'm sure. *grin*

Most decent furniture will give you the appropriate cuffs themselves. There is also a set of "Universal Cuffs" available out there. I will see if I have the Landmark to where you can get them.

EDIT: If you go to New Desperation Isle, once you arrive do a 180 and straight ahead will be a vendor marked "Kinky Items". It's next to the Real Restraint vendor. You'll see "Hybrid Cuffs" on the wall. They are free. The vendor will you chargge $1L, but it will be returned. It says the cuffs are compatible with most systems. I haven't proven this as of yet myself.

Initially, it was a Coke and Pepsi sort of thing, yes. Different content creators made their own scripted methods for their cuffs, collars and furniture. The cuffs made by Maker A would only work with Maker A's furniture, because they did not have access or permission to script them to work also with Maker B's products.

From what I have seen, most of the current makers of cuffs and of furniture that works with cuffs have moved to using scripts that are compatable and interoperable with the other major maker's stuff. So while Sensations sells cuffs fine-tuned to work with their own product line, the free scripts they give out for making new items that are Sensations compatable also work with anything designed for either lockguard or lockmeister commands.

Essentially, they are learning that their customers like variety more than "brand loyalty". They sell more stuff if the customer can mix and match different maker's products.

Lockmeister was originally released just as a protocol specification with minimal code, and it was difficult to work with (as was the protocol developer, allegedly). Then Lockguard came out with more attachment points and a better developers kit, including full perms furniture and cuffs for developers to work off of. However about the same time some prominent bdsm vendors came out with advances on the lockmeister system, released a better dev kit and had some kick-ass customer support. Lockmeister is pretty much the standard nowadays.

I'm supposed to be helping to develop a better dev kit for Lockguard (I don't own the specification) but got sidetracked into creating some toys to shake out what is really needed, and am taking a summer hiatus - you don't waste good weather where I'm from.

We made a few sets of cuffs that should work with everything. And there is also a little freebie box next to the freebie shelves you'll find at this slurl that will make you lockmester cuffs lockguard compatible.

secondlife://Serenity/46/225/24 <-- LustBaby Fantasy Dungeon. And I suppose I should say that this has ADULT STUFF! So if you are offended by such things, don't go. And don't worry, it'll be flagged adult as soon as LL flicks the switch and the PG people won't be able to get the free stuff. Bummer.

interesting. i get on with her quite well
nearly every decent product out there will work with BOTH sets of restraints, so just wear the set you think looks nicest.

Fan made products rather than LL made - one code monkey got there first, but the other either didn't notice or thought they'd get more cred by competing or doing it better.

I wear a set of lockmeister's on my ankles, but not for any use. I got them free during one event, and they looked good there, and I've yet to find nicer looking anklets. Oddly, nobody ever asks me if I'm into the scene; which I keep expecting. I'm not, so I'm kind of glad for that. They just look nice.

Sometimes an anklet is just an anklet.

That is very true *nods*

However, combine that with any form of latex at all and.. well.. you're a chick magnet

To you! Not trying to derail the thread, but Coke has more bite than Pepsi and Pepsi is sweeter than Coke.

I agree! Night and day!

I wouldn't know. I drink Dr. Pepper (mostly with cherry, sometimes with chocolate & cherry).

Ooohhh, I love that. My second favorite, after Coke. Not counting beer, wine, or scotch.

Cherry Dr Pepper and Jack Daniels is a great combo.

There is one interesting difference--possibly accidental--that favors Lockguard from a parcel prim count standpoint, and that is the direction of particle flow. In Lockmeister, particles travel from mooring point to attachment; in Lockguard, the opposite. This matters because a single prim can emit only one particle stream at a time, but can be the target of any number of streams from other particle systems. Unlike mooring points on furniture, attachment prims don't count against parcel limits, so if you're chaining more than one attachment to the same mooring point, well, you do the math.

The do NOT taste the same.

Pepsi sucks.

Nuh uh! My Pepsi can beat up your coke!

(Notice I didn't capitalize "coke". )

They're both revolting.

I'm not terribly experienced in the finer nuances between Lockmeister and Lockguard, but I know from other uses that visually, it tends to work the best it the end which moves the most is the emitter. That way, the particle stream just seems to sways a bit, whereas if the target jumps around, the particles tend to "delink" more. -Not that particle tethers look *all* that realistic anyway when moving, but I guess that would be one more minor plus to Lockguard.

My Cherry Dr Pepper can kick both of them! ;P

Lockmeister For The Win.

Always.

Well that part, allegedly or not, was rather unnecessary except to make people think and wonder what kind of person she is from the negative perspective your remark set.

I really should have said "hard to reach". It wasn't an attitude thing so much as an availability issue, and the code examples which were initially available for quite some time were cryptic and incomplete - just a starting point for advanced scripters to figure out. I apologize if it came out otherwise.