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Buying 512 m2 Land

Melanie Effingham
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12-12-2007 07:33
Hey everyone... I've been searching the forums and I've noticed that some reasonably priced 512 m2 plots of land exist out there... I was just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on where some of the best may be found.

I'm just interested in a little corner of the world to build a small house on.

Anywhere in particular I should look?

Thanks!
Chas Connolly
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12-12-2007 08:14
Welcome to the forums, Melanie!

That's a very difficult question. SL is full of 512m2 plots. Basically, you just have to decide how much you're prepared to pay and start looking. Basic flat, green mainland starts at about L$4000, but you can pay a lot more in coastal regions. So if you want to be on or near a beach be prepared to L$10,000 or more per plot.

You can either scroll throught the land for sale in world, or simply open your map and look for the yellow bits. Then you click on the yellow bits and tp there. See what's going o around the plot. Is it residential, commerfcial or a bit of both. Are there lots pof ghastly spinning ads, or nice houses.

And don't forget you can choose to build up in the air, so check that too, as it can be more crowded up there than on the ground.

I'm sure others here have tips on good places. I'm looking to move myself so I wouldn't advise looking where I am, although I do just happen to have a nice 512 m2 plot .....:)

If I see anything startling, I'll let you know.

Good luck.
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Raymond Figtree
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12-12-2007 09:03
One way is to contact a known land broker like Sarah Nerd and see if they have any gems for sale. They see a lot more plots than most of us and it can save on a lot of hunting (although hunting on your own can be fun if you have the time and inclination).

When using search, be sure to sort by For Sale: Mainland so you don't get a bunch of estate listings in your results.

Also, older more established regions often have more attractive surroundings with less spinning ads to spoil the view.
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-12-2007 09:07
Wander around places with em for sale =P

If it is your very first land, I would recommend finding some nice places and contacting the seller and seeing if they'll give yu a good price. Often they will since you're new ^_^

But best place to look for plots is the land sales tab of search.. I'd recommend only checking mainland as private land is more complex to deal with for your first time buying.
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Nuvo Tigerpaw
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12-12-2007 09:23
I did just that last night. I used the "Land Sales" search for plots in my size and price range. There are many to choose from and many are terrible, badly sloped terrain, boxed in on all sides, SPAM. Be sure to visit as many as you can and bring up the plot boundry by clicking on the lot name at the top of the window. Sometimes what looks like a good plot with bad terrain on either side is really two plots, each with only a half usable.

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12-12-2007 09:29
Also make sure the plot isnt surrounded by 16m plots that will be full of rotating signs shortly. When I look I always stick to mature Sims that have a "settled" apperance. those do change but usually not radically and you can tell if your desired look will fit in better.
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12-12-2007 10:33
From: Raymond Figtree


When using search, be sure to sort by For Sale: Mainland so you don't get a bunch of estate listings in your results.



Pay attention to this. If you buy 512 in private estate instead of mainland you'll be paying tier for it!.

I recommend ocean protected land, that means that you are in front of an ocean protected by linden and no one can build there, but you can sail!.

I remeber that for search my first 512 I used a web-based search engine:
http://www.mappanovus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=70

with very good result i found a oceanfront at 8000L in an excellent residencial ocean themed sim.

Check this one i found using that web site: secondlife://Axel/16/120/0
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12-12-2007 10:38
From: Kahiro Watanabe
Pay attention to this. If you buy 512 in private estate instead of mainland you'll be paying tier for it!.

I recommend ocean protected land, that means that you are in front of an ocean protected by linden and no one can build there, but you can sail!.

I remeber that for search my first 512 I used a web-based search engine:
http://www.mappanovus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=70

with very good result i found a oceanfront at 8000L in an excellent residencial ocean themed sim.

Check this one i found using that web site: secondlife://Axel/16/120/0
Although L$8000 is double the base price per meter of mainland right now, it's actually a pretty good deal considering you are talking about a one time cost of around US$30 to buy the land that gives you an oceanfront home.
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12-12-2007 13:08
From: Raymond Figtree
Although L$8000 is double the base price per meter of mainland right now, it's actually a pretty good deal considering you are talking about a one time cost of around US$30 to buy the land that gives you an oceanfront home.


I have to say, this is the best thing I've done here yet, and then some. I bought five adjacent, 512 sq meter lots, oceanfront, @ and average cost of $9270. each, on a Linden protected waterway. It was pricey!

But, everytime I look out of my living room, bedroom, sit on my decks, or on my roof, or on my private beach, I can see out over miles (I guess!) of beautiful water in every direction. I'm toying with selling, because there is pretty much nothing left in my sim to purchase any longer and I know my neighbors have been chomping on the bit to get hold of more land.

However, the joy this land gives me is so high right now, I just can't imagine selling, just quite yet, or ever. I have the bug for more land tho, so I might have to buy something elsewhere...
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Reax Radek
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12-12-2007 13:18
I was just thinking of posting the same thread.

However, in my case I'm only interested in a good place to drop a loft skybox made for 512 m2. What would be suggested, if you want something as cheap as possible and won't even be seeing your land or neighbors?

And what are the major disadvantages to buying on an estate, as opposed to the mainland? I understand you need to pay tier. But on 512, the tier seems to usually still be less than paying Linden $9/month.

I would be happy to keep paying cheap rent on the loft skybox I have, but the fact I can't change my music is driving me nuts (as the owner seems to have a taste for cheesy metal).

Thanks in advance.
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12-12-2007 13:21
From: Reax Radek
I was just thinking of posting the same thread.
However, in my case I'm only interested in a good place to drop a loft skybox made for 512 m2. What would be suggested, if you want something as cheap as possible and won't even be seeing your land or neighbors?


Hi Reax,

I'll leave the rest of your questions to the experts, but a word of warning........
on cheap land you may find the sky more crowded than the ground :o
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12-12-2007 13:26
The problem with 512m of land is the prim limits.

I told my good friend who's a builder what I wanted (smallish private club with a small condo like area on top for a private living/storage area) and she said the prim limit is very small on a 512 area landscape. Thus even if I want just a home and not a attached club for friends it would still be fairly basic.

After discussion further I decided I am going to purchase a 2048 area of land. Not only does it give one the area to do pretty much what they want but more importantly it will give her the prims to work with to make the place nice looking.

Something else to keep in mind when looking for land.
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12-12-2007 13:27
From: Reax Radek
I was just thinking of posting the same thread.

However, in my case I'm only interested in a good place to drop a loft skybox made for 512 m2. What would be suggested, if you want something as cheap as possible and won't even be seeing your land or neighbors?

And what are the major disadvantages to buying on an estate, as opposed to the mainland? I understand you need to pay tier. But on 512, the tier seems to usually still be less than paying Linden $9/month.

I would be happy to keep paying cheap rent on the loft skybox I have, but the fact I can't change my music is driving me nuts (as the owner seems to have a taste for cheesy metal).

Thanks in advance.
The difference is that with Estate land, LL is not your landlord. But it's a very viable option if you are looking for a skyplot of that size. Just make sure the estate owner you go with has a good reputation. And the more sims they own, the less likely they are a fly-by-night owner.
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Reax Radek
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12-12-2007 13:38
From: Sally Silvera
Hi Reax,

I'll leave the rest of your questions to the experts, but a word of warning........
on cheap land you may find the sky more crowded than the ground :o


Good point. :) However, the box I'm looking at doesn't even have real windows. Just one giant fake window of the NY skyline. It's basially one giant empty box with awesome textures, and should leave me with about 90 prims leftover to play with.
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12-12-2007 13:49
From: Reax Radek
Good point. :) However, the box I'm looking at doesn't even have real windows. Just one giant fake window of the NY skyline. It's basially one giant empty box with awesome textures, and should leave me with about 90 prims leftover to play with.
I have 15000 prims to play with. That's barely enough...
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Reax Radek
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12-12-2007 14:58
From: Raymond Figtree
I have 15000 prims to play with. That's barely enough...


Place I'm in now is 100 prim, and I'm using 90. I prefer a very minimal setup. Of course, I can see me eating those words in a month or so.

I do wish I'd headed advice to wait on buying furniture until I realized how important low prim count is.
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12-12-2007 15:05
I'll offer this piece of advice again... if you want to constrain prim usage, constrain the size of your house, so you might get the urge to STOP when the place looks full.
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12-12-2007 16:42
From: Reax Radek
Place I'm in now is 100 prim, and I'm using 90. I prefer a very minimal setup. Of course, I can see me eating those words in a month or so.

I do wish I'd headed advice to wait on buying furniture until I realized how important low prim count is.
I know the minimalist thing can be done. For three months, I went to 0 tier and lived on a 512 in a Zen tea house. The most stress-free time I've had in SL. Then I bought a full sim...

FYI, one prim meditation cushions make fine chairs.
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12-12-2007 18:05
From: Elora Lunasea
I have to say, this is the best thing I've done here yet, and then some. I bought five adjacent, 512 sq meter lots, oceanfront, @ and average cost of $9270. each, on a Linden protected waterway. It was pricey!

But, everytime I look out of my living room, bedroom, sit on my decks, or on my roof, or on my private beach, I can see out over miles (I guess!) of beautiful water in every direction. I'm toying with selling, because there is pretty much nothing left in my sim to purchase any longer and I know my neighbors have been chomping on the bit to get hold of more land.

However, the joy this land gives me is so high right now, I just can't imagine selling, just quite yet, or ever. I have the bug for more land tho, so I might have to buy something elsewhere...



There's almost no reason to sell this type of land if your happy with it for anything other than greed.
Not saying that you fit the bill, but only that I've seen it too often, 512's going for 14K+

Enjoy what you have. :)
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12-12-2007 18:31
512m are very useful for anyone who only needs a presence in SL. Having contacts from within SL and outside real-world is very good. All you do is place an office or house there with a mailbox that can handle in-world and real-world emails. Coming soon is the ability to make phone calls to the outside world and vice-versa!

512m are also useful for people who only need a place to put their SLX/Onrez Network Servers to sell their products. All you do is put a 2 or 2 story fancy modern building with each floor with 1-3 Prim vendors that display your products for sale and of course your network servers. Now whenever you need to build/work you need to go to a public sandbox.
Melanie Effingham
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12-13-2007 02:21
Wow! Thanks for all your responses everyone! I did some hunting yesterday and I discovered that if you're lucky you'll find a lot with something like 156 prims. That seems like I'd have a pretty basic of basic type of plot.

I'm considering the upgrade to a larger piece simply for the prim count.

But now I'm trying to find somewhere with a decent montly "fee." I'm not about to buy land for thousands of dollars only to pay another $3000 a month just to be there.

The similarities to buying a RL house or rental unit fascinate me! lol
Vince Caudron
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12-13-2007 05:12
Hi,

I bought 512 m2 just so I could have a place to call my own. I bought it on the mainland because I did not want anyone telling me what I could & couldn't do on my own place. I also didn't care what the surrounding land looked like (and yes, I have lots of for sale signs around me) as long as I could put up a small house & landscaping. Anyway, I paid ~$3800L for it in Cheosan (215,184,,43) with a 117 prim limit. If something I'm doing needs more prims than I'll go to a public sandbox.

Now if I could find a decent tree...

Vince
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12-13-2007 05:27
From: Melanie Effingham
Wow! Thanks for all your responses everyone! I did some hunting yesterday and I discovered that if you're lucky you'll find a lot with something like 156 prims. That seems like I'd have a pretty basic of basic type of plot.

I'm considering the upgrade to a larger piece simply for the prim count.

But now I'm trying to find somewhere with a decent montly "fee." I'm not about to buy land for thousands of dollars only to pay another $3000 a month just to be there.

The similarities to buying a RL house or rental unit fascinate me! lol


A 512 plot with a 156 prim allowance sounds like a priavte estate rental. You don't have to 'buy' at all if you're planning to rent or pay tier to someone. Don't forget if you 'buy' something - probably on a private estate - and have to pay tier to another avi (and not LL) then it's not a real purchase and you can lose that money and your land in the blink of an eye. Seen too many horror stories on this forum.

If you want to rent first, simply pay a monthly fee to a reputable landlord. There are quite a few of them on these forums. Just say what you'd like to have and I'm sure you'll get a few good offers.

And either come back here to ask, or join the land answers group (check land sticky above or Raymond Figtree's profile) and ask any questions you have there.

Good luck and be careful:)
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