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Any truth to the Mono test grid rumor?
SuezanneC Baskerville
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08-16-2007 22:29
There's a rumor to the effect that testing of Mono will be taking place on a test grid for developer's soon, like within a month.

Is this true, or just something someone made up to sound cool?
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Brash Zenovka
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08-16-2007 23:12
What is this "Mono" they supposedly are testing? I am assuming not that disease you get for kissing the wrong person ...


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edit: wikipedia refers to "an open source implementation of the Microsoft .NET architecture"

Is this it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29
Ed Gobo
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08-16-2007 23:16
Babbage Linden has been promising this for ages. Will increasing lsl speed by a factor of 50 or so. Wonderful news!

However, the last problem I heard they had was the serialization of all your scripts on sim crossings, so hopefully that is now working and they will have more than one sim in the test grid.
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08-16-2007 23:17
From: Brash Zenovka
What is this "Mono" they supposedly are testing? I am assuming not that disease you get for kissing the wrong person ...


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edit: wikipedia refers to "an open source implementation of the Microsoft .NET architecture"

Is this it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29

Yes that is what Mono is. I have heard the same rumors. I have also heard form a reliable source that there will be something "big" to test on the beta grid "soon."
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Ed Gobo
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08-16-2007 23:18
From: Brash Zenovka
What is this "Mono" they supposedly are testing? I am assuming not that disease you get for kissing the wrong person ...


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edit: wikipedia refers to "an open source implementation of the Microsoft .NET architecture"

Is this it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29

It is that, but it will run on the sim server, so LL's implementation is not yet open source. They use linux in their sims so they cannot use microsoft's .net directly.
Kenn Nilsson
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08-16-2007 23:23
From my understanding, the end-result is a speed-increase for LSL processing, but not a language-architecture upgrade.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong?
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Ed Gobo
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08-16-2007 23:48
I am sure the client open source developers can improve the available methods to generate byte code.
Qie Niangao
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08-17-2007 02:09
From: Kenn Nilsson
From my understanding, the end-result is a speed-increase for LSL processing, but not a language-architecture upgrade.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong?
From: Ed Gobo
I am sure the client open source developers can improve the available methods to generate byte code.
I would expect the first go-round of Mono to support just LSL, but the possibility exists to completely replace the LSL language. But of course it will still be running with more or less the same VM constraints, so... we can give ourselves #includes and case statements, but we'll still have the same llGetStuffed() library functions and 16KB total memory.

Could be worse. Could be Ada. :p
Stan Binder
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08-17-2007 16:46
There are memory leaks. I assume we won't see Mono before the compacting garbage collector of Mono is released.
But it is for sure that the Lindens plan to:
1) Start allowing compilation of LSL to Mono/CLI
2) Think about ways to include other languages

http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/12/20/town-hall-with-cory-introductory-transcript/

Edit: The LSL -> Mono/CLI will NOT be made by the SL client
Ed Gobo
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08-17-2007 19:15
From: Stan Binder
The LSL -> Mono/CLI will NOT be made by the SL client


Source code will still need to travel from client to server, and that would allow at least for includes, a very major improvement when dealing with small chunks of code.
Stan Binder
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08-18-2007 05:52
What do you mean with includes?
Sindy Tsure
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08-18-2007 05:54
From: Stan Binder
There are memory leaks. I assume we won't see Mono before the compacting garbage collector of Mono is released.

Unless new ones have cropped up (which is certainly possible) those have been fixed and they've been making progress.

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/01/21/thanks-for-the-memory/
Stan Binder
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08-19-2007 02:00
Fantastic! I missed that. Very good "news".