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Brandi Westland
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11-19-2007 12:10
i bought 4 little lots all together....is there any way to join the 4 lots together so it is one lot?
Ciaran Laval
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11-19-2007 12:11
If they are next to each other, go to edit terrain, drag the box between the edge of one parcel and the start of another, release the mouse and then click join.
Alicia Sautereau
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11-19-2007 12:14
u can right click the land and select edit terrain

when the window opens, u can drag an selection from 1 parcel to the other, it only has to cross the border of each so no need to select it all

in the edit window (same as build just diff tab) u can press the join button and they are merged, u can select all plots like this to do it at once

the settings of the first selected plot will be used after joining
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Oryx Tempel
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11-19-2007 12:17
If the lots aren't physically touching but are all on the same sim, don't forget that all 4 lots contribute to the prim allowance total. For example, if you had 4 sixteen meter plots, each of which supports 3 prims, and none of the lots touched eachother, you could still put all 12 prims (4 x 3 = 12) onto just one of the plots, or 6 prims on 2 plots, or however you like. They don't need to touch.
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Brandi Westland
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11-19-2007 12:30
hey ty for the help, i joined them all together.....you people are great
Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 00:58
also note that you get a prim bonus if the parcels are joined.
2 16s unjoined is 6 prims. joined as a 32 you get 7.
From: Oryx Tempel
If the lots aren't physically touching but are all on the same sim, don't forget that all 4 lots contribute to the prim allowance total. For example, if you had 4 sixteen meter plots, each of which supports 3 prims, and none of the lots touched eachother, you could still put all 12 prims (4 x 3 = 12) onto just one of the plots, or 6 prims on 2 plots, or however you like. They don't need to touch.
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Stephen Zenith
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11-20-2007 01:12
From: Nina Stepford
also note that you get a prim bonus if the parcels are joined.
2 16s unjoined is 6 prims. joined as a 32 you get 7.


Well, I wouldn't call it a bonus - it's just a side-effect of dividing 512 by 117 and not getting an integral result.
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11-20-2007 01:41
The parcels also dont have to be physically next to each other... As long as they are on the same sim and you can cam view back to drag the join box between them, they will still link together to share the same parcel properties... If there is another residents parcel in the way, it does not matter it will ignore it. I dont know if this is by design or a bug, but it's handy if you only want to manage one ban list, parcel name/description etc...

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Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 04:13
it is a bonus when you buy two 16m adplots at 3 prims ea, add them together and get 7 though ;)
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Well, I wouldn't call it a bonus - it's just a side-effect of dividing 512 by 117 and not getting an integral result.
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11-20-2007 04:47
From: Gomez Bracken
The parcels also dont have to be physically next to each other... As long as they are on the same sim and you can cam view back to drag the join box between them, they will still link together to share the same parcel properties... If there is another residents parcel in the way, it does not matter it will ignore it. I dont know if this is by design or a bug, but it's handy if you only want to manage one ban list, parcel name/description etc...

Gomez

From what I see in the description of the raw terain files it is intended to work that way.
It's probably also not very wel known that there can be no more then 256 parcels in a sim.
Offcourse the only time you'll be effected by it is when there are a lot of ad lots in a sim.
Nina Stepford
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11-20-2007 05:00
this is true only to a degree. if the "other residents parcel" in between happens to be group owned land, and you are an owner in that group, you will not be able to join the two plots flanking it.
if the
From: Gomez Bracken
... If there is another residents parcel in the way, it does not matter it will ignore it. I dont know if this is by design or a bug, but it's handy if you only want to manage one ban list, parcel name/description etc...

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11-20-2007 07:30
From: Abigail Merlin
......
It's probably also not very wel known that there can be no more then 256 parcels in a sim.
Offcourse the only time you'll be effected by it is when there are a lot of ad lots in a sim.


Interesting
- potential for ad-plot avoidance
-- and land-griefing.


Going WAY off topic, but since the above sparked the thought :) ........

Land Contra-Griefing:

How a land baron could avoid ad-cutters destroying a sim (in particular a sim with a Linden road running through it):
Buy a sim at auction with the intention of selling as small plots
Cut into parcels
Reserve a block and cut into 16m not-for-sale plots in a quantity calculated to prevent cutting of the parcels set for sale. i.e. end up with 256 parcels on the sim.
That way, an ad-cutter would not be able to buy a cheapo 512, 1024, 1536 and cut it. They could still have ads, but on a minimum plot size of whatever the baron had cut.
In order to make 16m plots, they would have to buy and join a large number of plots into one, cut out 16s, and then try to sell the larger parcels.


As an indication of the numbers. 256x 16m plots would be 4096 metres.
If the sim is being cut into say 512s and 1024s, then do the maths on the number of 16m not-for-sale plots to bring the count to 256.

What's in it for the baron?
Maybe higher prices for the plots as the chances of ad plots are less. Any ad farms that might be created would be on single plots having a single owner.

The block of 16m plots would still be usable for build or parkland, but a bit of a pain for land settings :)
The block could be offered to or purchased by a pro-bono group.



Land-griefing (as in a third party having control over what one can do with a plot):
A plot owner with a genuine need to cut something like a 1024 into two 512s would have to go to whoever controlled the 16m plot block for the facility. The block controller would join two of the block plots to free up the sim plot count by 1.

Messy perhaps, but it's a thought.


Land-griefing (as in messing with others):
Someone could buy a 4096 or less in a sim that was cut into a small number of large parcels.
They could cut out enough 16m plots to prevent the other landowners in the sim from sub-dividing their land....
Ouch! Boot on the other foot!
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