Neighbour reactivity to my clumsy prims

hi everyone,

This is my first post, so be nice

Today someone gave me a statue, so i rezzed it on my little bit of land
and it spilled over the side. I had no idea how big it was before i did that.

I liked the look of it, so wanted to try fit it on top of my tower, hoping
that i could resize it. Think i made a mistake, i moved it for a minute or
two, was still moving it when i got a message from neighbour (group owned
land), i quote...

[5:02] X: purposely putting prims over other land will get you reported again, keep it up
[5:02] Misha Seetan: oh hello i'm not sure what i'm doing atm, who are u?
[5:05] Misha Seetan: in fact i dont think i'v been reported at all
[5:05] Second Life: User not online - message will be stored and delivered later.
[5:06] X: in fact you have, and have been reported to the group to watch out for

I'm newb here, but i'm not in mmo in other verses.

Can i be reported for (clumsily) letting a few prims hang over a neighbour's
land? Like for goodness sake i wasn't nor would i ever leave em there, i was
just trying to wrestle the thing into shape.

What does it mean "reported again"? As far as i know i've never been reported.
Do u get a message if u are? Do the Lindens ignore vexatious reporting like (what
i believe) X above was dribbling about?

I said a few words to X, she distressed me and right or wrong i think that is my
only response to what i took to be an intimidatory and vexatious messaging to me.

Do ppl actually just say "u have some prims over my land silly"? that's be fine!

distressed,
Misha

You'll get a message if you're reported and found to be causing hassle. As you were on the plot at the time and moving it you're not going to get into any trouble.

People do ask you to move your prims if they're overhanging, it's silly not to first ask someone to move something.

Turn on the view of property lines in the view menu.

As for "reporting" - are you on mainland or an estate? You can be reported to LL and not know it. Chances are, the Lindens won't do anything about it anyway, not for weeks at best. If they are reporting you to your landlord, you at least can explain the situation.

Personally, that approach is ridiculous. Just ask them to move their item first. No "reporting" necessary, usually. sheesh.

Wow they handled that situation in about the worst way possible. They should have waited to see what your final build was going to look like and contact you first to resolve the problem if there was one. Reporting you and then threatening to report you again is just lame.

some people are just plain nasty.
Me? I would go and say hi and see if i could persuade them to wear a pink thong and come dancing but that's just me.

Polite people simply notify you - politely. Sometimes friendly, even. Hostile people jump at a chance to threaten someone or otherwise make them uncomfortable. Unfortunately, you got a hostile neighbor. Just highlight your property's borders and move your objects so they are entirely on your property and don't worry about it. You'll be fine. Happens all the time.

Your neighbour sounds like a freakoid drama queen.
The condition is generally untreatable, especially when the parties are separated by the Internet.

The best thing to to is
1) Say as little as possible
2) Keep it very polite.

Your neighbour is like a sad pig wallowing in a small bit of mud.
She would love for you to wrestle with her.
Resist any temptation to do so.

Thanks everyone! Some comments...

Yes, if i'm on the plot and moving it then i'm not leaving it there
so i rekon that i'm not doing a reportable offence!

I'm on mainland.

Yep, 'LAME' is a word that suits. I think it's bordering on
griefing to threaten me with reporting so quickly, with no prior
contact and while i'm moving the darn thing! I've seen this
kind of noob behavior in a mmorpg i'm grindingly familiar with,
but as i'm new here i have to take it seriously.

Yes, the thong approach sounds good.
Polite and friendly, yes. I'm not doing it on purpose.
Freakoid.. yep, and she ought to know better.

"You'll be fine. Happens all the time."
Thanks, i take that to mean that reason prevails in reporting.

This person's bad behavior aside, the fact remains that most abuse reports get tossed in the bin unless it's something quite naughty or lots of people report you. I wouldn't worry a bit about that part of it.

I remember when you and I encountered one of those awhile back, Sling. Gotta love it.

Ah the memories! And the Pandas looking down on her

Her empire collapsed soon afterwards.
She banned her boyfriend from her remaining club in the old continent, and that went poof as well.

These unquiet spirits are doomed to poof sooner or later. What a pity some of them don't poof sooner.


Straying back to the OP's track -
A lot of people in SL are very insecure and stressed. Having control of a bit of SL can heighten that sense of insecurity for them. They don't really know how to deal with strangers on their doorstep / in their face.
For some, they compensate by being aggressive. This is easy as on the Internet we are completely invincible. When push comes to shove we can win an argument by muting the other person (or saying that we are muting them).

It could be that in RL, the OP's neighbour is well thought of by her peers, but SL has exposed her weaknesses to herself.
This is why I suggest keeping things short and polite.
The last thing anyone needs if for their neighbour to ban them. Then you get green ban lines right up to skybox levels. It's a Linden-approved griefing system.


Telling a complete freakoid like it is should be reserved for situations where we have nothing to lose

And naughty me! In the (head)case that Czari refers to, I had nothing to lose.

i had one of those too...
she plundered my money tree without even going near it, then raved and ranted to no end how ugly the wall around my plot was.

Hi Misha, welcome to the forums!

Did the neighbor actually say she was reporting you to LL (filing an abuse report), or just "reporting you"? If she didn't say WHO she was reporting you to, it could have been the estate manager (if you rent land from someone else), or their Aunt Bessie.

Really, it sounds like this person checked your rez date and decided to try to intimidate a new player. Why one would take this approach instead of just talking to you rationally is beyond me; but there are some very immature folks in SL.

If the person reported you to LL, it would be for "prim encroachment", prims that overhang someone else's land. If the encroachment is egregious and reported often, the Lindens may send someone out who would delete or return the object to you, and send you an IM. But more probably they would ignore a case like this.

Fwiw, note that if a prim is cut dpwm from a larger size, it can actually "shadow" someone else's land even if it doesn't look like it. This is particularly common with megaprims (prims that are more than 10m long in any dimension). When you edit the object, you should see it's true, uncut size outlined ... you may wish to check that for your big thing!

p.s. if you want someone to come and help check it out for you, just say so and a forumite will probably IM you and drop by to help.

Something that occurred to me when I read this: It could also be that Misha's neighbor has had trouble with being pushed around on her property - I've seen enough tales of it happening! - and either overreacted or thought Misha was an alt of her former nemesis. Which doesn't excuse her behavior, but could explain it. It could mean, especially since Misha responded very politely, that there is hope for the future.

Or the neighbor could just be a jerk.

What everyone else said Misha.....stay polite, and don't worry about the possible AR.

A few years ago at Ambat, I clumsily allowed half my skybox to cross over onto neighboring property. As the property was for sale, with autoreturn turned off, I didn't notice my mistake. Well, a few months later, the property sold, autoreturn was turned on, and half my skybox got returned to me. There were no harsh words spoken, and, after I figured out what happened I had to laugh *grin*

I still remembered when I originally got my parcel... The first thing I ever did was find my corners and mark them with really tall boxes. I trying to be as sure as I could be that I never crossed my parcel border, even though I'm bordered by my best friend on two sides. (^_^)

I see land/home ownership in SL being very much like RL. There's just a buncha courtesy required to keep your neighbors from wanting to smash your lawn gnomes to itty-bitty-bits. (^_^)

If I feel the need to compare it to anything, SL land ownership really does seem to be like modern suburbia in nature. We're commonly strangers to our neighbors, don't meet often, and are quite protective of our space. Some people just react more rudely than others. (=_=)

Still... Everyone is more than welcome to play on my lawn. Just look for the big cookie jar next to my best friend's tea set in Ferguson. (^_^)y

Hi Misha - welcome to Second Life and the forums.

Don't take any notice - just keep cool. It is tricky when you are first learning to rez and build things. I've lost count of the number of times I've moved an object and sent it sliding away over a boundary with a slip of the mouse! This is a feature of SL which no one should get worked up about. When I was a noob here, I rezd a house in the sky over my neighbour's parcel and didn't notice it - when the neighbour pointed it out to me, Iwas so embarrassed.