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LittleMe Jewell

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10-17-2009 08:44

Since LL pushed out a new regular client, I thought I would check on the Snowglobe versions. In my Snowglobe download directory, I have the following versions:

1.0.3.2537
1.1.2.2584
1.2.0.2680

However, when I now go to check on the latest Snowglobe, it seem that they have dropped back to the 1.1.2.2584 version. Anyone know why they would have done that?

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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10-17-2009 09:06

There's appears to be a new release of Snowglobe.

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe

Snowglobe 1.1.3: (1.1.3.2906, October 16, 2009)

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Viktoria Dovgal

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10-17-2009 09:07

1.0.3.2537 - old release version
1.1.2.2584 - current release version (soon to be replaced by 1.1.3, for the notecard fix)

1.2.0.2680 - 1.2 the development branch, 2680 is an old build from August. The most recent build is 1.1.3.2906

LittleMe Jewell

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10-17-2009 09:25

Odd - I am pretty sure I downloaded all of the various versions from the LL main download page, but maybe I did pull that 1.2 version from somewhere else (like the wiki page).

So, is the 1.1.3 version not on the main LL download page cuz it is not quite officially the latest release? Or are they just slow at keeping all of the various download sites up to date?

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Viktoria Dovgal

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10-17-2009 09:28

1.1.3 will go onto the main download page after a day or two, if people trying it out don't report back with any disasters.

If you had the 1.2 build, yeah, it almost certainly came off something like the wiki or the mailing lists.

LittleMe Jewell

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10-17-2009 09:34

Thanks. I'm going to go ahead and download the 1.1.3 version and try it out --- I always install into new directories anyway, so I'll still have the 1.1.2 if I need to revert back.

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10-17-2009 10:16

Is Snowglobe any good? Does it come with added features like Emerald does?

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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10-17-2009 10:25

I just tried the 1.1.3 version and like the earlier versions it locks up while I'm using the browser on both monitors.

The latest version of Greenlife ran for many hours with no gripes not long ago.

On my old machine, Snowglobe displays textures faster than most of the other viewers but is prone to hanging up.

Snowglobe may have more new features than the regular SL viewer but nothing to compare with all the Greenlife stuff.

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Viktoria Dovgal

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10-17-2009 10:39

Over on http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloads there is a link to "Snowglobe, Frequency Edition". This is Snowglobe with the Dale Glass/Emerald/etc. bells and whistles tacked on.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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10-17-2009 10:56

Aighh!!! Too many viewers.

Just started Emerald, now off to download Snow-Em-Dale-Cool-Nic.

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LittleMe Jewell

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10-17-2009 11:01

The biggest advantage to Snowglobe is when I am doing massive shopping or hunts cuz it does seem to rez textures much much faster. Also, when I am texturing my house, it seems to open that texture window much faster.

I've never had locking issues with it.

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10-17-2009 11:03

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Aighh!!! Too many viewers.

Yes, for sure. I now have Nicholaz (1 version), Cool Viewer (3 versions), LL viewer (had 2, but with the mandatory update, only the latest one now), Kirstens (3 versions), Imprudence (1 version), Meerkat (1 version), Snowglobe (3 versions), Emerald (4 versions).

I have a tendency not to uninstall old versions for quite a while - hence the reason for so many versions of some of them.

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Nika Talaj

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10-17-2009 12:31

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

On my old machine, Snowglobe displays textures faster than most of the other viewers but is prone to hanging up.

On my ancient integrated Intel graphics laptop, I just did repeated logins with Emerald (previous version, not the latest) and the newest Snowglobe, on a fairly visually complex sim, graphics settings exactly the same between the two.

I was surprised to see that with Snowglobe my FPS stabilized at 11.8 - 13.5, whereas with Emerald it was around 7.5 - 9. With such low FPS, that is a real difference in quality of experience. Texture rez rate seemed to be about the same.

Qie Niangao

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10-17-2009 12:50

The Snowglobe Map loads very quickly.

If one is to believe the release notes (http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Snowglobe_Release/1.2), there's not much to be expected from 1.2.

Does anyone know if there's been any progress on getting in-world script access to the http map textures (replacing, for example, the region map scripts using the subnova server), or is all that on the long, long list of "postponed" features?

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10-17-2009 13:26

From: Qie Niangao

Does anyone know if there's been any progress on getting in-world script access to the http map textures (replacing, for example, the region map scripts using the subnova server), or is all that on the long, long list of "postponed" features?

It looks like that will be happening indirectly. The biggest change in 1.2 is the LLMedia stuff. While it's nice to have QuickTime and WebKit outside the main SL process, the bigger deal is that this also will be enabling the real "html on a prim" stuff we heard about so long ago.

There are new LSL functions coming to help work with this stuff, darned if I can find where I left my notes

(oh ok, llSetPrimMediaParams, llGetPrimMediaParams, llClearPrimMedia)

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10-17-2009 16:29

From: Viktoria Dovgal

It looks like that will be happening indirectly. The biggest change in 1.2 is the LLMedia stuff. While it's nice to have QuickTime and WebKit outside the main SL process, the bigger deal is that this also will be enabling the real "html on a prim" stuff we heard about so long ago.

There are new LSL functions coming to help work with this stuff, darned if I can find where I left my notes

(oh ok, llSetPrimMediaParams, llGetPrimMediaParams, llClearPrimMedia)

Wow, thanks! Actually, that *was* how it was supposed to work, I just didn't realize it was part of the LLMedia API work, about which the discussions seemed... dilute. Anyway, that's great, and most eager to see those functions in the wild.

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Belle Loll

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10-17-2009 16:50

From: Viktoria Dovgal

Over on http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloads there is a link to "Snowglobe, Frequency Edition". This is Snowglobe with the Dale Glass/Emerald/etc. bells and whistles tacked on.

I downloaded "Snowglobe, Frequency Edition" today because of this thread... and I love it!!

My desktop is still on XP... not only could I not get the voice figured out in the Emerald viewer...but my fps dropped so I could barely move. I was unable to use it.

Thanks for tip Viktoria!!!

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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10-17-2009 17:14

As many different viewers as there are, one might think someone would have fixed the Rendering / Axes bug, or put a direction indicator in the title bar or something.

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Viktoria Dovgal

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10-17-2009 17:44

From: Qie Niangao

Wow, thanks! Actually, that *was* how it was supposed to work, I just didn't realize it was part of the LLMedia API work, about which the discussions seemed... dilute. Anyway, that's great, and most eager to see those functions in the wild.

Mm hmm it's going to be nice when it is all finished for real. I don't think 1.2 will quite have everything needed to make a face show arbitrary media, there is server side support that I believe isn't ready yet, and part of that was temporarily ripped out of Snowglobe for now. Short term, the API is there for testing against parcel media, to get ready for then.

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10-18-2009 16:56

Just tested Snowglobe. Sculpties load much faster, especially 64x64 lossless sculpties. This is great news as those lossless sculpties were terrible for hanging around in a deformed state for an excrutiatingly lone time. Now the buggers rez almost instantly!

Only concern is that Snowglobe is a little crashy for me. Seems certain things inworld seem to crash the client and leave me staring at my Windows desktop - Kapoof! Gone!. Although today it seems to be quite stable. Must test..

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LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	10-17-2009 08:44 Since LL pushed out a new regular client, I thought I would check on the Snowglobe versions. In my Snowglobe download directory, I have the following versions: 1.0.3.2537 1.1.2.2584 1.2.0.2680 However, when I now go to check on the latest Snowglobe, it seem that they have dropped back to the 1.1.2.2584 version. Anyone know why they would have done that? _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-17-2009 09:06 There's appears to be a new release of Snowglobe. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe Snowglobe 1.1.3: (1.1.3.2906, October 16, 2009) _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	10-17-2009 09:07 1.0.3.2537 - old release version 1.1.2.2584 - current release version (soon to be replaced by 1.1.3, for the notecard fix) 1.2.0.2680 - 1.2 the development branch, 2680 is an old build from August. The most recent build is 1.1.3.2906
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	10-17-2009 09:25 Odd - I am pretty sure I downloaded all of the various versions from the LL main download page, but maybe I did pull that 1.2 version from somewhere else (like the wiki page). So, is the 1.1.3 version not on the main LL download page cuz it is not quite officially the latest release? Or are they just slow at keeping all of the various download sites up to date? . _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	10-17-2009 09:28 1.1.3 will go onto the main download page after a day or two, if people trying it out don't report back with any disasters. If you had the 1.2 build, yeah, it almost certainly came off something like the wiki or the mailing lists.
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	10-17-2009 09:34 Thanks. I'm going to go ahead and download the 1.1.3 version and try it out --- I always install into new directories anyway, so I'll still have the 1.1.2 if I need to revert back. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	10-17-2009 10:16 Is Snowglobe any good? Does it come with added features like Emerald does? _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-17-2009 10:25 I just tried the 1.1.3 version and like the earlier versions it locks up while I'm using the browser on both monitors. The latest version of Greenlife ran for many hours with no gripes not long ago. On my old machine, Snowglobe displays textures faster than most of the other viewers but is prone to hanging up. Snowglobe may have more new features than the regular SL viewer but nothing to compare with all the Greenlife stuff. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	10-17-2009 10:39 Over on http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloads there is a link to "Snowglobe, Frequency Edition". This is Snowglobe with the Dale Glass/Emerald/etc. bells and whistles tacked on.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-17-2009 10:56 Aighh!!! Too many viewers. Just started Emerald, now off to download Snow-Em-Dale-Cool-Nic. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	10-17-2009 11:01 The biggest advantage to Snowglobe is when I am doing massive shopping or hunts cuz it does seem to rez textures much much faster. Also, when I am texturing my house, it seems to open that texture window much faster. I've never had locking issues with it. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	10-17-2009 11:03 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Aighh!!! Too many viewers. Yes, for sure. I now have Nicholaz (1 version), Cool Viewer (3 versions), LL viewer (had 2, but with the mandatory update, only the latest one now), Kirstens (3 versions), Imprudence (1 version), Meerkat (1 version), Snowglobe (3 versions), Emerald (4 versions). I have a tendency not to uninstall old versions for quite a while - hence the reason for so many versions of some of them. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Nika Talaj now you see her ... Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449	10-17-2009 12:31 From: SuezanneC Baskerville On my old machine, Snowglobe displays textures faster than most of the other viewers but is prone to hanging up. On my ancient integrated Intel graphics laptop, I just did repeated logins with Emerald (previous version, not the latest) and the newest Snowglobe, on a fairly visually complex sim, graphics settings exactly the same between the two. I was surprised to see that with Snowglobe my FPS stabilized at 11.8 - 13.5, whereas with Emerald it was around 7.5 - 9. With such low FPS, that is a real difference in quality of experience. Texture rez rate seemed to be about the same.
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	10-17-2009 12:50 The Snowglobe Map loads very quickly. If one is to believe the release notes (http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Snowglobe_Release/1.2), there's not much to be expected from 1.2. Does anyone know if there's been any progress on getting in-world script access to the http map textures (replacing, for example, the region map scripts using the subnova server), or is all that on the long, long list of "postponed" features? _____________________ Archived for Your Protection
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	10-17-2009 13:26 From: Qie Niangao Does anyone know if there's been any progress on getting in-world script access to the http map textures (replacing, for example, the region map scripts using the subnova server), or is all that on the long, long list of "postponed" features? It looks like that will be happening indirectly. The biggest change in 1.2 is the LLMedia stuff. While it's nice to have QuickTime and WebKit outside the main SL process, the bigger deal is that this also will be enabling the real "html on a prim" stuff we heard about so long ago. There are new LSL functions coming to help work with this stuff, darned if I can find where I left my notes (oh ok, llSetPrimMediaParams, llGetPrimMediaParams, llClearPrimMedia)
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	10-17-2009 16:29 From: Viktoria Dovgal It looks like that will be happening indirectly. The biggest change in 1.2 is the LLMedia stuff. While it's nice to have QuickTime and WebKit outside the main SL process, the bigger deal is that this also will be enabling the real "html on a prim" stuff we heard about so long ago. There are new LSL functions coming to help work with this stuff, darned if I can find where I left my notes (oh ok, llSetPrimMediaParams, llGetPrimMediaParams, llClearPrimMedia) Wow, thanks! Actually, that was how it was supposed to work, I just didn't realize it was part of the LLMedia API work, about which the discussions seemed... dilute. Anyway, that's great, and most eager to see those functions in the wild. _____________________ Archived for Your Protection
Belle Loll Registered User Join date: 7 Dec 2006 Posts: 260	Bells & Whistles 10-17-2009 16:50 From: Viktoria Dovgal Over on http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Downloads there is a link to "Snowglobe, Frequency Edition". This is Snowglobe with the Dale Glass/Emerald/etc. bells and whistles tacked on. I downloaded "Snowglobe, Frequency Edition" today because of this thread... and I love it!! My desktop is still on XP... not only could I not get the voice figured out in the Emerald viewer...but my fps dropped so I could barely move. I was unable to use it. Thanks for tip Viktoria!!! _____________________ All people smile in the same language
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-17-2009 17:14 As many different viewers as there are, one might think someone would have fixed the Rendering / Axes bug, or put a direction indicator in the title bar or something. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	10-17-2009 17:44 From: Qie Niangao Wow, thanks! Actually, that was how it was supposed to work, I just didn't realize it was part of the LLMedia API work, about which the discussions seemed... dilute. Anyway, that's great, and most eager to see those functions in the wild. Mm hmm it's going to be nice when it is all finished for real. I don't think 1.2 will quite have everything needed to make a face show arbitrary media, there is server side support that I believe isn't ready yet, and part of that was temporarily ripped out of Snowglobe for now. Short term, the API is there for testing against parcel media, to get ready for then.
Batman Abbot Registered User Join date: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 87	10-18-2009 16:56 Just tested Snowglobe. Sculpties load much faster, especially 64x64 lossless sculpties. This is great news as those lossless sculpties were terrible for hanging around in a deformed state for an excrutiatingly lone time. Now the buggers rez almost instantly! Only concern is that Snowglobe is a little crashy for me. Seems certain things inworld seem to crash the client and leave me staring at my Windows desktop - Kapoof! Gone!. Although today it seems to be quite stable. Must test..

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