Truth in advertising...
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-21-2008 19:45
A few months back I was checking out a bunch of other self-described virtual world systems, and one was called "Utherverse". I just got a message offering me $27.00 in Utherverse money for becoming a Utherverse VIP for $20 a month. This, of course, set off all my scam detectors... until I got to the end: From: Utherverse Ad Lawyer language: the current exchange rate is determined by a free market that’s pretty thinly traded, and we’re giving out a lot of Rays. We expect to bring a lot of old users back in to Red Light Center, so that will change the demand, but with all the extra supply, the exchange rate is very likely to change substantially, and it could end up that Rays fall in value, and that decline could be very significant. Because the Ray exchange is a free market, there is no guarantee that there will be a buyer for your Rays. Whoa, now is that "truth in advertising" or what? Is it still a scam when they tell you right out that it's a scam?  I gotta say, that shows class. Of some kind.
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Amaranthim Talon
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10-21-2008 19:54
Well... you realize what sort of a place and what the overt purpose of Utherverse is? What's a little more truth?
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FD Spark
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10-22-2008 00:31
I looked up the place it is connected with Red light Center. Not sure how you can have intimate, private experience if you got no personal private space. They don't give you the ability to have your own place or make content, just doing virtual drugs and sex from the looks of it. It doesn't explain their age verification process either. I don't want to age verify here, why would I want to else where?
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-22-2008 01:09
From: Amaranthim Talon Well... you realize what sort of a place and what the overt purpose of Utherverse is? What's a little more truth? So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street?
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-22-2008 01:09
From: Amaranthim Talon Well... you realize what sort of a place and what the overt purpose of Utherverse is? What's a little more truth? So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street? From: FD Spark It doesn't explain their age verification process either. I don't want to age verify here, why would I want to else where? I don't know, I didn't get that far.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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10-22-2008 06:15
Hubby belonged to that for awhile....his computer could handle it, but not SL. He was constantly asking me for help in there. It was frustrating, and the graphics aren't nearly as good. We finally bought him a computer that would run SL and he hasn't been back since.
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Conifer Dada
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10-22-2008 06:22
If you really need that sort of thing, Bella Boardwalk in SL is probably better. Not that I feel the need to go there, but I did so a few times when I was new.
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Sling Trebuchet
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10-22-2008 07:19
From: Argent Stonecutter So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street? ... eh.. Think about it ....
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Isablan Neva
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10-22-2008 07:19
From: Argent Stonecutter So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street? Yes. 
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10-22-2008 07:31
From: FD Spark Not sure how you can have intimate, private experience if you got no personal private space. They don't give you the ability to have your own place or make content, Actually, Utherverse just implimented the Zaby apartments, giving every VIP memeber a private apartment. Acess controls for the apartment are at the discretion of the owner of the apartment. A free (with paid memebrship) apartment can hold up to 5 people. And you can make custom content for Utherverse sort of in the same way Kingware made custrom clothing and skins for TSO. To see other peoples custom content, you would have to download thier specific files. Much of the custom content is exchanged freely on thier forums. The new Zaby apts also seen to support a certain amount of customization, tho I havent messed with it yet. Utherverse is mostly a one trick pony, updates and upgrades are few and far between, at $20USD a month the membership fee is steeper then it needs to be, but for blatant sexual fun, it can be amusing. Or it could be I just have a fondness for blatant sexual fun. Another vote for whores being more honest then anyone on Wall St, with the exception of the whores on Wall St. From: FD Spark It doesn't explain their age verification process either. I don't want to age verify here, why would I want to else where? I signed up for VIP almost two years ago so Im not positive, but I think the only verification I had to provide was a credit card for the membership fee. You know, pretty much all the ID that any X rated site on the interwebz asks for.
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Yosef Okelly
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10-22-2008 07:40
From: Argent Stonecutter So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street? They are both doing the same thing, but a brothel will tell you that you are about to be $#*@ed.
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Amaranthim Talon
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10-22-2008 08:07
From: Argent Stonecutter So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street? I don't know, I didn't get that far. No- I meant that if they acknowledge that is what they are and you-the user- not YOU Argent- acknowledge that's what the user is there for, what difference will a little more truth do? However- at least with brothels, virtual or not- one knows going in you're going to get screwed- Wallstreet waits til you're not expecting it 
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Amaranthim Talon
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10-22-2008 08:07
From: Yosef Okelly They are both doing the same thing, but a brothel will tell you that you are about to be $#*@ed. Great minds my dear 
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-22-2008 13:18
From: Isablan Neva From: Argent Stonecutter So you're saying that virtual brothels are inherently more trustworthy than Wall Street
Yes.  Just checking.
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FD Spark
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10-22-2008 13:27
So people don't actually sell their content there? I saw they have stores but not whole lot more information about it not sure 27 or 20 dollars though a month is worth it personally for me if only activity that people do involves sex. When I was in TSO there was no ability to do custom clothing or skins unless they found away to do this similar to The Sims games added modifications or how Romancer or Toadwater did years ago but back then only the user of the modifications could see the customizations because the files are only seen on either on client side or whomever has the files. Either way it is interesting, I am not sure if scam any more then what any other similar business is doing with selling virtual dollars or products.
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-22-2008 14:22
From: FD Spark So people don't actually sell their content there? I have no idea. Over the past couple of months I have signed up for and tried to run pretty much everything resembling a "3d world" that didn't require money or credit info up front... to see whether there was anything close to SL out there. This includes things even more way out or at least less world-like than Utherverse. Summary: No. There ain't.
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Opensource Obscure
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10-23-2008 05:42
From: Argent Stonecutter I have no idea. Over the past couple of months I have signed up for and tried to run pretty much everything resembling a "3d world" that didn't require money or credit info up front... to see whether there was anything close to SL out there. This includes things even more way out or at least less world-like than Utherverse.
Summary: No. There ain't. thanks for this update. which operating system was your research based on? I did something similar to you some months ago, but being on Linux, I know I can't even try most platforms out there. If your conclusions include Windows, they are even more relevant.
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Argent Stonecutter
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10-23-2008 07:38
From: Opensource Obscure which operating system was your research based on? Mac OS X, Windows 2000, and Windows XP.
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