Second Life Forums Archive - Is it ok to sell stuff in the beta grid? (in sandboxes, etc.)

SuezanneC Baskerville

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08-26-2008 22:25

Is it ok to sell stuff in the beta grid in sandboxes, at the welcome area, etc?

Such as, for example, a designer uses the beta grid to test imports of textures, sounds, etc., and runs low on beta grid money.

Is it ok for them to set out a vendor on Linden land to sell some stuff to get more beta grid money?

People would be paying with beta grid play money, and could buy the stuff to see if they like it before buying it for real in the main grid.

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Elex Dusk

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08-26-2008 22:29

It's the Beta Grid... as the Linden dollars cannot be exchanged out for other real world currency people can test transactions all they wish. Note that users of the Beta Grid start out with Linden dollars (of varying amounts).

It's funny money.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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08-26-2008 22:35

I know it would perhaps not make sense to enforce the rules against selling in the sandbox in the beta grid, but rule enforcement and making sense don't always walk hand in hand.

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08-26-2008 23:29

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

I know it would perhaps not make sense to enforce the rules against selling in the sandbox in the beta grid, but rule enforcement and making sense don't always walk hand in hand.

Nor will the boneheads thinking that somehow the beta grid is a vast new world to be exploited make sense.

Then there will be lots of "HOW DUZ EYE CACH OUT BATA GRIDZ????"

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2k Suisei

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08-26-2008 23:34

Maybe there's a secret society forming on the beta grid?.

Investigate, Suez!.

Dekka Raymaker

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08-27-2008 03:31

when I go there to test I always see one or two avatars in appearance mode, does changing your appearance on the Beta Grid carry over into the Main Grid? I would have thought not.

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Abigail Merlin

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08-27-2008 03:41

From: Dekka Raymaker

when I go there to test I always see one or two avatars in appearance mode, does changing your appearance on the Beta Grid carry over into the Main Grid? I would have thought not.

My guess is they want to experiment with their nocopy shape but not risk damaging it in main grid, or they are just vain.

Haravikk Mistral

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08-27-2008 04:58

What I find interesting is the number of people who spend time on the beta-grid because they were banned on the main grid. I've met six such people and all banned for underage violations.

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spinster Voom

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08-27-2008 05:14

I can't see the harm in selling stuff on beta as it is all play money. The easiest way to test would be to try it and see if anybody AR'd. I would imagine that if they objected it would only be a warning the first time in any case (BUT I could be completely wrong on this). I suppose if you got pulled up on it you could say you were testing the vendor scripts.

From: Haravikk Mistral

What I find interesting is the number of people who spend time on the beta-grid because they were banned on the main grid. I've met six such people and all banned for underage violations.

That's a bit alarming. I always assumed that a ban on the main grid carried over to the beta grid. That means that the population on beta could become progressively more full of griefers and underage avatars. Do teens have access to beta? or do they have their own separate beta grid?

Ceera Murakami

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08-27-2008 05:25

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Is it ok to sell stuff in the beta grid in sandboxes, at the welcome area, etc?

Such as, for example, a designer uses the beta grid to test imports of textures, sounds, etc., and runs low on beta grid money.

Is it ok for them to set out a vendor on Linden land to sell some stuff to get more beta grid money?

People would be paying with beta grid play money, and could buy the stuff to see if they like it before buying it for real in the main grid.

The better solution is simply to contact a Linden and explain the situation, and they can reset your L$ balance so you can continue testing. It's just "funny money".

By the way, if you log in to the beta grid and happen to have a L$ balance on the main grid that is higher than L$5K, and if the grid's asset data was refreshed recently, your main grid balance will be what you have to play with in funny money. Handy if you need to test a large land purchase or something else that requires more than L$5K.

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Adz Childs

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08-27-2008 05:32

you mean funnier money

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Kitty Barnett

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08-27-2008 05:41

From: spinster Voom

Do teens have access to beta? or do they have their own separate beta grid?

There is no separate "adult grid" and "teen grid", they're one and the same (agni).

Every account has a parent estate ID which determines which sims you are able to visit (or even see) and which other accounts you can interact with.

So teens can log on to aditi but only have access to any teen sims that happen to be included on the preview grid. It's no different than how it works on the main grid.

Infrared Wind

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08-27-2008 06:50

Per my experience, anything made in the Beta grid and given/sold to someone is only available in the Beta grid.

Is it ok to sell stuff in the beta grid? (in sandboxes, etc.)
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	08-26-2008 22:25 Is it ok to sell stuff in the beta grid in sandboxes, at the welcome area, etc? Such as, for example, a designer uses the beta grid to test imports of textures, sounds, etc., and runs low on beta grid money. Is it ok for them to set out a vendor on Linden land to sell some stuff to get more beta grid money? People would be paying with beta grid play money, and could buy the stuff to see if they like it before buying it for real in the main grid. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Elex Dusk Bunneh Join date: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 800	08-26-2008 22:29 It's the Beta Grid... as the Linden dollars cannot be exchanged out for other real world currency people can test transactions all they wish. Note that users of the Beta Grid start out with Linden dollars (of varying amounts). It's funny money.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	08-26-2008 22:35 I know it would perhaps not make sense to enforce the rules against selling in the sandbox in the beta grid, but rule enforcement and making sense don't always walk hand in hand. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Beezle Warburton =o.O= Join date: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 1,169	08-26-2008 23:29 From: SuezanneC Baskerville I know it would perhaps not make sense to enforce the rules against selling in the sandbox in the beta grid, but rule enforcement and making sense don't always walk hand in hand. Nor will the boneheads thinking that somehow the beta grid is a vast new world to be exploited make sense. Then there will be lots of "HOW DUZ EYE CACH OUT BATA GRIDZ????" _____________________ Though this be madness, yet there is method in't. -- William Shakespeare Warburton's Whimsies: In SL Apez.biz
2k Suisei Registered User Join date: 9 Nov 2006 Posts: 2,150	08-26-2008 23:34 Maybe there's a secret society forming on the beta grid?. Investigate, Suez!.
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	08-27-2008 03:31 when I go there to test I always see one or two avatars in appearance mode, does changing your appearance on the Beta Grid carry over into the Main Grid? I would have thought not. _____________________
Abigail Merlin Child av on the lose Join date: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 777	08-27-2008 03:41 From: Dekka Raymaker when I go there to test I always see one or two avatars in appearance mode, does changing your appearance on the Beta Grid carry over into the Main Grid? I would have thought not. My guess is they want to experiment with their nocopy shape but not risk damaging it in main grid, or they are just vain.
Haravikk Mistral Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2005 Posts: 2,482	08-27-2008 04:58 What I find interesting is the number of people who spend time on the beta-grid because they were banned on the main grid. I've met six such people and all banned for underage violations. _____________________ Computer (Mac Pro): 2 x Quad Core 3.2ghz Xeon 10gb DDR2 800mhz FB-DIMMS 4 x 750gb, 32mb cache hard-drives (RAID-0/striped) NVidia GeForce 8800GT (512mb)
spinster Voom Registered User Join date: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,069	08-27-2008 05:14 I can't see the harm in selling stuff on beta as it is all play money. The easiest way to test would be to try it and see if anybody AR'd. I would imagine that if they objected it would only be a warning the first time in any case (BUT I could be completely wrong on this). I suppose if you got pulled up on it you could say you were testing the vendor scripts. From: Haravikk Mistral What I find interesting is the number of people who spend time on the beta-grid because they were banned on the main grid. I've met six such people and all banned for underage violations. That's a bit alarming. I always assumed that a ban on the main grid carried over to the beta grid. That means that the population on beta could become progressively more full of griefers and underage avatars. Do teens have access to beta? or do they have their own separate beta grid?
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	08-27-2008 05:25 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Is it ok to sell stuff in the beta grid in sandboxes, at the welcome area, etc? Such as, for example, a designer uses the beta grid to test imports of textures, sounds, etc., and runs low on beta grid money. Is it ok for them to set out a vendor on Linden land to sell some stuff to get more beta grid money? People would be paying with beta grid play money, and could buy the stuff to see if they like it before buying it for real in the main grid. The better solution is simply to contact a Linden and explain the situation, and they can reset your L$ balance so you can continue testing. It's just "funny money". By the way, if you log in to the beta grid and happen to have a L$ balance on the main grid that is higher than L$5K, and if the grid's asset data was refreshed recently, your main grid balance will be what you have to play with in funny money. Handy if you need to test a large land purchase or something else that requires more than L$5K. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Adz Childs Artificial Boy Join date: 6 Apr 2006 Posts: 865	08-27-2008 05:32 you mean funnier money _____________________ http://slnamewatch.com — Second Life Last Name Tracking — Email Alerts — Famous People Lookup — http://adz.secondlifekid.com/ — Artificial Boy — Personal Blog From: Tofu Linden Hmm, there's nothing really helpful there, but thanks for pasting.
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	08-27-2008 05:41 From: spinster Voom Do teens have access to beta? or do they have their own separate beta grid? There is no separate "adult grid" and "teen grid", they're one and the same (agni). Every account has a parent estate ID which determines which sims you are able to visit (or even see) and which other accounts you can interact with. So teens can log on to aditi but only have access to any teen sims that happen to be included on the preview grid. It's no different than how it works on the main grid.
Infrared Wind Gridologist Join date: 7 Jan 2007 Posts: 662	08-27-2008 06:50 Per my experience, anything made in the Beta grid and given/sold to someone is only available in the Beta grid.

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