Online petition in 20 languages opposes Oracle's takeover of MySQL and its recent set of MySQL-related "empty promises" -- "In less than one week, during the Holiday Season, we gathered 50 times more customer support than Oracle claimed three weeks ago" -- "The campaign has only started and the number of signatures will double very quickly"
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Lord Sullivan
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01-17-2010 11:41
http://www.helpmysql.org/en/petition
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Sindy Tsure
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01-17-2010 12:36
For those wondering about how this applies to SL, SL runs on MySQL.
Your inventory? It's in a MySQL database. _____________________
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Lord Sullivan
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01-17-2010 12:54
For those wondering about how this applies to SL, SL runs on MySQL. Your inventory? It's in a MySQL database. Thanks Sindy I forgot to add that for here  _____________________
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Isablan Neva
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01-17-2010 13:57
Your inventory? It's in a MySQL database. That doesn't exactly qualify as a rousing recommendation  _____________________
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-17-2010 15:01
Supposing MySQL went the way of the dinosaur, what would the consequences be for SL?
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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01-17-2010 15:16
I'm conflicted. If the implication is that LL will then have to pay through the nose for MySQL licensing, I really don't care so long as it comes with proper database support that gets rid of our scaling problems.
If it means that MySQL goes away, that means that LL will eventually have to buy some kind of enterprise level database software. Which could be good for us. But if it means that the licensing becomes an onerous cost without corresponding improvements in performance, then yeah, I would sign it. _____________________
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LittleMe Jewell
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01-17-2010 16:03
I'm afraid it is too late. My husband works for Sun and effective this upcoming Tue morning, he will officially work for Oracle. The buy has happened.
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LittleMe Jewell
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01-17-2010 16:06
What Oracle has told the Sun people is that they want to keep MySQL as a low end way of competing against SQL Server.
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Phil Deakins
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Join date: 17 Jan 2007
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01-17-2010 16:10
I don't see it making any difference to SL. MySql was free, and anyone who has it has it free. Therer won't, or may not be, be any free upgrades, that's all.
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Jenshae Werefox
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01-17-2010 16:32
Signed and on option #1.
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Ann Otoole
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Join date: 22 May 2007
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01-17-2010 18:16
If LL were to switch to Oracle then I would finally have relevant skills and expertise to offer them.
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LittleMe Jewell
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01-17-2010 19:57
If LL were to switch to Oracle then I would finally have relevant skills and expertise to offer them. _____________________
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Indeterminate Schism
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01-17-2010 22:21
Poooh! My WAMP server is on MySQL 5.1.36, what's the latest release and is there still time to get an upgrade?
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Kyrah Abattoir
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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01-18-2010 00:23
Oracle as a company is your typical dinosaur that provide inferior product with huge lock in to their customers and stay in their market only because they where "there" at the right moment and major companies bought into their software (wich they are now pretty much forced to keep).
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Nina Stepford
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01-18-2010 00:47
its a fuss about nothing.
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Sling Trebuchet
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01-18-2010 01:57
I don't know if LL are still using a free version of mySQL.
I don't know which of the MySQL storage engines they use. Whatever they have now - and that is clearly creaking under the load - they won't survive on entry-level freebie. Enterprise levels of MySQL and support for the big boys who need multi-server etc. have been there for a cost for some time. Oracle have owned a commonly used core part of MySQL - InnoDB for many years. Not a whole lot is going to be changing. My feeling is what LittleMe said above. Oracle see it as a low-end product. It's keeping a foot in the door. If they were to try to slap a licence fee on the millions of free base-level mySQL installations, they could make it US$_single_digit a pop and still make money. You local/global friendly Web-hosting services would probably pay a single fee to cover all their customers. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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01-18-2010 04:23
One accidental benefit of even a nominal fee might be to get folks--including LL devs--to rethink where they're really using the relational model, and where they could do better with a NoSQL solution.
Of course, it would not be in Oracle's best interest for its existing enterprise customers to think too hard on that subject.  |
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Kara Spengler
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Join date: 11 Jun 2007
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01-18-2010 06:13
If it means that MySQL goes away, that means that LL will eventually have to buy some kind of enterprise level database software. Which could be good for us. Umm, hello? Gone to Many more companies rely on MySQL than LL. _____________________
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Ann Otoole
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01-18-2010 07:26
One accidental benefit of even a nominal fee might be to get folks--including LL devs--to rethink where they're really using the relational model, and where they could do better with a NoSQL solution. Of course, it would not be in Oracle's best interest for its existing enterprise customers to think too hard on that subject. If you read the comments on Charity Linden's post on the v5 upgrade you will see we had a little nosql chatter. I do think this situation may spur some needed attention and effort on nosql. There is no way a Codd relational schema can handle the data volume requirements for SL at ten million concurrency. Well maybe it could but would take one hell of a lot of hardware and magical never fails parallelism. But would nosql be the answer? No way to know yet. It is also useful to keep in mind the mysql databases are just tables of pointers to the assets which live in xml on a high performance file system (Last time a Linden explained it on SLDEV) so the "inventory" doesn't really live in the database. Gives me a headache to ponder this thing. |
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Sindy Tsure
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Join date: 18 Sep 2006
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01-18-2010 07:47
It is also useful to keep in mind the mysql databases are just tables of pointers to the assets which live in xml on a high performance file system (Last time a Linden explained it on SLDEV) so the "inventory" doesn't really live in the database.. /me picks nits and points out that your inventory is just an echo of those pointers - it's not the actual objects themselves. If the DB esplodes, your inventory goes away even if the actual objects are still there in XML. When people 'lose inventory', I suspect the link between them and the object is poofing more often than the actual object is poofing. _____________________
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