Second Life Forums Archive - Friends Online even more unreliable than usual?

Waterstar Eilde

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Join date: 12 May 2007

Posts: 404

03-07-2008 21:51

I thought I was accustomed to the vagaries of Friends Online - until today.

Since installing the latest viewer, all my friends inworld have been permanently renamed 'waiting', and their given status appears to bear little relation to whether they're actually online or not.

Off-world, curiouser and curiouser - I've logged into FO on two separate occasions today, only to find that my alts are hanging out in SL without my knowledge.

Each time I checked, it was a different alt! Just wait 'til I catch them, I'll give them a piece of my mind...

Usagi Musashi

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Join date: 24 Oct 2004

Posts: 6,083

03-07-2008 21:58

having more problems with friends loading and not working correctly then ever before........

Rhaorth Antonelli

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Join date: 15 Apr 2006

Posts: 7,425

03-07-2008 22:00

my friends list is pretty much same as usual
working and quiet

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Mason Kingsford

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Join date: 12 Nov 2006

Posts: 42

03-07-2008 22:01

I was about to post some similar. I use the website to see who's online. Lately it's super wacked! I can reload it a variety of ways and get different results each time. It's like a who's online slot machine lol. People that haven't been online for hours sometimes appear to be still online. Go figure. I'd rather have it off than have it this borked.

LL, are you paying attention?

Waterstar Eilde

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Join date: 12 May 2007

Posts: 404

03-07-2008 22:14

From: Mason Kingsford

... People that haven't been online for hours sometimes appear to be still online. Go figure. I'd rather have it off than have it this borked.
LL, are you paying attention?

I second that entirely!

VooDoo Bamboo

www.voodoodesignsllc.com

Join date: 4 Oct 2006

Posts: 911

03-07-2008 22:24

I think this whole new client is junk so far. I hate the new interface.

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LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

03-07-2008 22:59

Since I use the Nicholaz viewer, I'm still using the old 1.18.5.3 client so my Friends list inworld is working fine - though I did have a day last week where absolutely none of my groups would show.

The Friends Online website being screwed up is driving me crazy though. I sat there for a few minutes today, continually hitting refresh, just to review the variations it was showing - and yes it was a completely different combination every time. It would be funny if it wasn't pathetic.

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Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
♥♥♥
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foehn Breed

More random than random

Join date: 16 Jan 2006

Posts: 1,142

03-07-2008 23:31

I haven't had a working friends list for a? couple of weeks,
not that I really keep one,
unless I'm on the Nicholaz viewer.

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Waterstar Eilde

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Join date: 12 May 2007

Posts: 404

03-08-2008 01:59

Oh how I'd love Nicholaz to do one for Mac users! I don't suppose there's a way to download a previous version once LL have put up the latest one, is there?

Matthew Dowd

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Join date: 30 Jan 2007

Posts: 1,046

03-08-2008 02:30

Yes, this has been a major problem in the 1.19 release candidates - see http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4570

I was somewhat surprised for 1.19 to go into production with this bug still present, and even more surprised that LL should be making 1.19 mandatory before fixing this bug!

Matthew

Waterstar Eilde

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Posts: 404

03-08-2008 03:47

Thanks Matthew - I've voted, and I hope plenty of others do too!

LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

03-08-2008 07:31

From: Waterstar Eilde

Oh how I'd love Nicholaz to do one for Mac users! I don't suppose there's a way to download a previous version once LL have put up the latest one, is there?

Yes, you can re-download an older version - at least you can still get to the 1.18.5.3 version. Since it is an older version and I'm pretty sure the update software will not let you back-level it, you will first have to completely uninstall your 1.19 version and then install the older one. And in order to use the older version, you have to use Nicholaz or some other 3rd party that will override/bypass that version check SL is doing.

The link to the download is:
http://download-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-18-5-3_Setup.exe

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-Lil

Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
~Mark Twain~

Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
♥♥♥
Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22
.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell

LittleMe Jewell

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Join date: 8 Oct 2007

Posts: 11,319

03-08-2008 07:33

From: LittleMe Jewell

... Since it is an older version and I'm pretty sure the update software will not let you back-level it, you will first have to completely uninstall your 1.19 version and then install the older one.

On second thought, you might be able to get around deleting your 1.19 install by installing the older version in a completely new directory - like the Release Candidate and Windlight versions do.

_____________________

♥♥♥
-Lil

Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?
~Mark Twain~

Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on.
♥♥♥
Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22
.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell

Shirley Marquez

Ethical SLut

Join date: 28 Oct 2005

Posts: 788

03-08-2008 10:05

All the 1.19.0 viewers (RC, release, WindLight First Look, and Dazzle First Look -- yes, I know that some of those no longer work) appear to have a bug in the Friends List handling. After a fresh install or a cache clear, your friends' names will never appear on the first login. To get them to appear, you have to log in long enough for all the information to download, then relog. Also, any new friends you make won't appear correctly in the list until the next time you log in.

The 1.19.1 RC appears to have fixed this bug. If there is a fix, we can also hope that it will show up in 1.19.0.6.

Musique Gable

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Join date: 20 Mar 2006

Posts: 9

Waiting, Waitin and More Waiting

03-09-2008 11:39

My friend's list isn't loading either - all I get is the (waiting). Put my vote in!! Hope they fix this soon.

~Musique Gable

Snowman Jiminy

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Join date: 23 Dec 2007

Posts: 424

03-09-2008 12:22

Yup - it's borked, but no more than usual....

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Ricardo Harris

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Join date: 1 Apr 2006

Posts: 1,944

03-09-2008 13:07

From: Snowman Jiminy

Yup - it's borked, but no more than usual....

The thing is "usual" is pretty bad by itself.

Feldspar Millgrove

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Join date: 16 Nov 2006

Posts: 372

03-09-2008 13:14

From: Waterstar Eilde

Since installing the latest viewer, all my friends inworld have been permanently renamed 'waiting

Referring to the in-world display (not the web site)... my Friends List has been messed up like this for at least a week. Occasionally it works normally, but most of the time it is just a long list of "

waiting)..." for the last week or two.

Friends Online even more unreliable than usual?
Waterstar Eilde Registered User Join date: 12 May 2007 Posts: 404	03-07-2008 21:51 I thought I was accustomed to the vagaries of Friends Online - until today. Since installing the latest viewer, all my friends inworld have been permanently renamed 'waiting', and their given status appears to bear little relation to whether they're actually online or not. Off-world, curiouser and curiouser - I've logged into FO on two separate occasions today, only to find that my alts are hanging out in SL without my knowledge. Each time I checked, it was a different alt! Just wait 'til I catch them, I'll give them a piece of my mind...
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	03-07-2008 21:58 having more problems with friends loading and not working correctly then ever before........
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	03-07-2008 22:00 my friends list is pretty much same as usual working and quiet _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Mason Kingsford Registered User Join date: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 42	03-07-2008 22:01 I was about to post some similar. I use the website to see who's online. Lately it's super wacked! I can reload it a variety of ways and get different results each time. It's like a who's online slot machine lol. People that haven't been online for hours sometimes appear to be still online. Go figure. I'd rather have it off than have it this borked. LL, are you paying attention?
Waterstar Eilde Registered User Join date: 12 May 2007 Posts: 404	03-07-2008 22:14 From: Mason Kingsford ... People that haven't been online for hours sometimes appear to be still online. Go figure. I'd rather have it off than have it this borked. LL, are you paying attention? I second that entirely!
VooDoo Bamboo www.voodoodesignsllc.com Join date: 4 Oct 2006 Posts: 911	03-07-2008 22:24 I think this whole new client is junk so far. I hate the new interface. _____________________ VooDoo DESIGNS www.voodoodesignsllc.com
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	03-07-2008 22:59 Since I use the Nicholaz viewer, I'm still using the old 1.18.5.3 client so my Friends list inworld is working fine - though I did have a day last week where absolutely none of my groups would show. The Friends Online website being screwed up is driving me crazy though. I sat there for a few minutes today, continually hitting refresh, just to review the variations it was showing - and yes it was a completely different combination every time. It would be funny if it wasn't pathetic. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
foehn Breed More random than random Join date: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,142	03-07-2008 23:31 I haven't had a working friends list for a? couple of weeks, not that I really keep one, unless I'm on the Nicholaz viewer. _____________________ You have no friends online at this time. "Excellent!" Einstein "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."
Waterstar Eilde Registered User Join date: 12 May 2007 Posts: 404	03-08-2008 01:59 Oh how I'd love Nicholaz to do one for Mac users! I don't suppose there's a way to download a previous version once LL have put up the latest one, is there?
Matthew Dowd Registered User Join date: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,046	03-08-2008 02:30 Yes, this has been a major problem in the 1.19 release candidates - see http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-4570 I was somewhat surprised for 1.19 to go into production with this bug still present, and even more surprised that LL should be making 1.19 mandatory before fixing this bug! Matthew
Waterstar Eilde Registered User Join date: 12 May 2007 Posts: 404	03-08-2008 03:47 Thanks Matthew - I've voted, and I hope plenty of others do too!
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	03-08-2008 07:31 From: Waterstar Eilde Oh how I'd love Nicholaz to do one for Mac users! I don't suppose there's a way to download a previous version once LL have put up the latest one, is there? Yes, you can re-download an older version - at least you can still get to the 1.18.5.3 version. Since it is an older version and I'm pretty sure the update software will not let you back-level it, you will first have to completely uninstall your 1.19 version and then install the older one. And in order to use the older version, you have to use Nicholaz or some other 3rd party that will override/bypass that version check SL is doing. The link to the download is: http://download-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/Second_Life_1-18-5-3_Setup.exe _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	03-08-2008 07:33 From: LittleMe Jewell ... Since it is an older version and I'm pretty sure the update software will not let you back-level it, you will first have to completely uninstall your 1.19 version and then install the older one. On second thought, you might be able to get around deleting your 1.19 install by installing the older version in a completely new directory - like the Release Candidate and Windlight versions do. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Shirley Marquez Ethical SLut Join date: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 788	03-08-2008 10:05 All the 1.19.0 viewers (RC, release, WindLight First Look, and Dazzle First Look -- yes, I know that some of those no longer work) appear to have a bug in the Friends List handling. After a fresh install or a cache clear, your friends' names will never appear on the first login. To get them to appear, you have to log in long enough for all the information to download, then relog. Also, any new friends you make won't appear correctly in the list until the next time you log in. The 1.19.1 RC appears to have fixed this bug. If there is a fix, we can also hope that it will show up in 1.19.0.6.
Musique Gable Registered User Join date: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 9	Waiting, Waitin and More Waiting 03-09-2008 11:39 My friend's list isn't loading either - all I get is the (waiting). Put my vote in!! Hope they fix this soon. ~Musique Gable
Snowman Jiminy Registered User Join date: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 424	03-09-2008 12:22 Yup - it's borked, but no more than usual.... _____________________
Ricardo Harris Registered User Join date: 1 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,944	03-09-2008 13:07 From: Snowman Jiminy Yup - it's borked, but no more than usual.... The thing is "usual" is pretty bad by itself.
Feldspar Millgrove Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2006 Posts: 372	03-09-2008 13:14 From: Waterstar Eilde Since installing the latest viewer, all my friends inworld have been permanently renamed 'waiting Referring to the in-world display (not the web site)... my Friends List has been messed up like this for at least a week. Occasionally it works normally, but most of the time it is just a long list of "waiting)..." for the last week or two.

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