For one I always tidy up after myself in SL and even if something does accidentally get left behind it gets returned to lost and found anyway. So knowing some of the reasons behind will help me understand how in-world works a bit better

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alana1275 Riddler
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09-04-2009 15:16
I come across this quite often in my travels where object rezzing is not allowed. I never have a problem with it as it is the owners right not to allow that sort of thing and there are plenty of other places I can go to do it but am just a bit curious.
For one I always tidy up after myself in SL and even if something does accidentally get left behind it gets returned to lost and found anyway. So knowing some of the reasons behind will help me understand how in-world works a bit better ![]() |
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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09-04-2009 15:27
Some of the reasons:
People who don't care one whit about cleaning up after themselves. People who rez quite inappropriate content that shouldn't be there (many of whom also fall in the above category). People who use up too many prims and cause some of the owner's prims to be returned, thereby interfering with what the build is supposed to be. People rezzing spy tools to monitor things that are none of their business. Those are just a few reasons to forbid building. |
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Brieanne Bomazi
Don't forget the *E*
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09-04-2009 15:33
And don't forget those lovely people that drop the self replicating prims that scream and shoot particles of various old men prOn among other things.
Too many people do not take the time or responsibility to clean up behind themselves, and not all land owners want to be bothered with checking their land daily to return trash. Setting the land to auto-return is good, except when you, as the land owner get busy building, forget the right tag, then find your things returned to you mid build. We have a spot on the sim thats open for dropping items/rezzing etc, has a 5 minute auto return. the spot is small...but since we have fishing, gives folks a place to drop bait & reload etc. ~Brie _____________________
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Qie Niangao
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09-04-2009 15:33
Right: for most uses, just having objects auto-return to their owners after a minute or so is good enough. But a scripted object can do a lot of damage in a minute, including making copies of itself that will last for the following minute and make copies of themselves, etc., all the while spamming the region with--well, with anything a script can do. So, many regions get griefed like that a few times and then clamp down on the land settings.
There's also a no-scripts setting that sounds as if it should do the same thing, but it's almost totally ineffective. It only applies up to 50m above ground level, and even there it can be easily defeated for attached objects, so it's pretty much useless. _____________________
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Indeterminate Schism
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09-04-2009 15:55
alana - it might also help you to understand this if you realise that they are, generally, turning-off rezzing for "everyone else", but not themselves and friends, for whom they will generally provide group membership and permissions - including rezzing
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Peggy Paperdoll
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09-04-2009 15:55
I come across this quite often in my travels where object rezzing is not allowed. I never have a problem with it as it is the owners right not to allow that sort of thing and there are plenty of other places I can go to do it but am just a bit curious. I'm curious why you are curious about the reasons land owners don't allow rezzing of objects on their land. You said you have not problem with it.......just why is it a curiousity? I used to allow friends to rezz objects on my land before LL made the roads and trails and extablished rezzing points along the way. I live at a juncture where two Linden roads intersect and back in the day before LL put in rezz points no one could rezz their vehicles to drive on the roads..........I invited my friends to go ahead and rezz their vehicles on my land with the request to "clean up" after themselves. For the most part they did not abuse my offer, however, few would "forget". I only own a 512 meter plot so my prim allowance is 117 total. My low prim skybox, plus a few pieces of low prim furniture pieces, my pose stand and a few trees took up about 40 prims............more than enough for most vehicles to be rezzed to drive onto the roads. But not enough to have a couple "forgotten". Or if I want to make a prims skirt and some 60 prim vehicle was setting on the plot I wouldn't have enough to even get started on a skirt. I revoked the offer. No one is allowed to rezz objects on my land unless they are in my group........and if they "forget" they are kicked out of the group. Hate to be so "stingy" but it's my land and I want to use the way I want to use it. I'd love to be generous but I've found even "friends" will abuse the privelege...........so that is my policy. |
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-04-2009 17:12
I have a gallery on my public land; so it hosts object that belong to other people, the artists pieces and such. Therefore I can't have auto return on. I allow 'need to rez' people like artists, through a group. If I allowed everyone to rez, I'd be cleaning up prim trash that others left. For some reason, new people will rez cubes around; and just leave them. Probably learning how to do it, I don't know. Cubes are the main thing I was always returning/deleting. So when you say ' it all gets returned anyway', sometimes it's an actual person having to bother to do the returning.
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Darkness Anubis
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09-04-2009 17:22
Me its having lived through the great grid crashing self replicating physics enable cube attacks pre the grey goo fence (actually WHY the grey goo fence was put in place). I was one of the misfortunes that lost half a sim worth of builds to such attacks. Autoreturn = not fast enough.
So no rez outside the family. I am SOOO not going through that again. |
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Mickey Vandeverre
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09-04-2009 17:28
Well......because once.... this newbie (who really wasn't a newbie - just faking), dropped in on me one day, and played totally innocent....picked my brain on how to buy and sell land...which prefabs to buy....how to decorate...how to sell a home and land package.......(he sure did ask good questions for his first day!)
Then....a few days later I was trying to add about 400 prims worth of stuff, and I was tapped out! How did that happen? So....I checked the land, and there were 400 prims owned by others. Went up into the sky.....and there was his brand new skybox, completely furnished with a FOR SALE sign on it! That's why. |
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Darkness Anubis
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09-04-2009 17:31
Well......because once.... this newbie (who really wasn't a newbie - just faking), dropped in on me one day, and played totally innocent....picked my brain on how to buy and sell land...which prefabs to buy....how to decorate...how to sell a home and land package.......(he sure did ask good questions for his first day!) Then....a few days later I was trying to add about 400 prims worth of stuff, and I was tapped out! How did that happen? So....I checked the land, and there were 400 prims owned by others. Went up into the sky.....and there was his brand new skybox, completely furnished with a FOR SALE sign on it! That's why. Aint squatters fun? ![]() |
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alana1275 Riddler
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09-04-2009 17:38
I have a gallery on my public land; so it hosts object that belong to other people, the artists pieces and such. Therefore I can't have auto return on. I allow 'need to rez' people like artists, through a group. If I allowed everyone to rez, I'd be cleaning up prim trash that others left. For some reason, new people will rez cubes around; and just leave them. Probably learning how to do it, I don't know. Cubes are the main thing I was always returning/deleting. So when you say ' it all gets returned anyway', sometimes it's an actual person having to bother to do the returning. Thanks everyone (landowners and all) for your input. Yes, I am a very tidy person in both RL and SL but there have been a few unavoidable cases when I have rezzed something and SL happened to crash out so could not delete or get it back in time. Then there was a small pair of glasses I once dropped and couldn't see them anywhere on the ground to pick up again - lol! Didn't know about the land owner auto-return set to on or off part. It is a shame that with lots of things there is always a minority (who leave a mess behind in this case) that spoil it for the responsible. Well it won't be too long before I get some land so can see what it is like from the other side of the fence! Now I know thanks (curiosity satisfied!) but just hope I have not started something here hehe ![]() |
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Sindy Tsure
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09-04-2009 17:38
grey goo That, in theory, can't happen again. In theory. They say. I have rez-for-all on my land with 20-30 minute autoreturn. That gives folks who hang out there to show off some new toy or build a quick something and strangers passing by time to rez a car or boat or whatever. It sometimes comes back at me - self replicators are annoying - but overall it works out well enough. I think. _____________________
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Darkness Anubis
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09-04-2009 17:45
That, in theory, can't happen again. In theory. They say. snip Actually it is possible to do a fair bit of damage these days even with the fence. Not the wholesale destruction of entire sections of mainland destroyed of the past but yeah its possible. |
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Desmond Shang
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09-04-2009 17:57
Need to rez something, 99% of Caledon commonwealth infrastructure land has a 30 minute or more autoreturn.
On double prim regions, that's 50%+ of the region. So you could go to say, Caledon Oxbridge Village, and rez something in the park as needed for a few minutes. It's not that big a deal to me. Des _____________________
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-04-2009 18:17
Thanks everyone (landowners and all) for your input. Yes, I am a very tidy person in both RL and SL but there have been a few unavoidable cases when I have rezzed something and SL happened to crash out so could not delete or get it back in time. Then there was a small pair of glasses I once dropped and couldn't see them anywhere on the ground to pick up again - lol! Didn't know about the land owner auto-return set to on or off part. It is a shame that with lots of things there is always a minority (who leave a mess behind in this case) that spoil it for the responsible. Well it won't be too long before I get some land so can see what it is like from the other side of the fence! Now I know thanks (curiosity satisfied!) but just hope I have not started something here hehe ![]() Alana, when you become a landowner, believe me you'll be checking your prim count and your land, to make sure everything on it is either yours or someone you allowed to rez there. It's a fair question, and 'now you know'. ![]() |