tracking people

My friend has a person the appears beside her no matter where she is. it has been going on for awhile. How can this person be tracking her like that? She says she isnt wearing anything from the person and she doesnt have her map location open to the person.
They both use Emerald.

Maybe they're partners and she TPs him everywhere. (^_^)

What's your reason for concern? (^_^)

hehe no, she is kinda freaked because this girl just appears beside her all the time no matter where she goes

I don't know much about Emerald, but maybe there's some feature that lets someone track someone else in there, hard to say. There's also still the possibility that something she's wearing is letting him track her position. Maybe she should try detaching any attachments, TPing, and seeing if he shows up. Then, start wearing attachments, waiting a few minutes, and when he shows up, you know what attachment is poisoned. Also, if she frequents various spots, he's likely just TPing around until he finds her. Have her TP somewhere he doesn't know about. Also, does she use Second Inventory?



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Thankyou Johan, but she has tried all that.

Emerald can "see" people from about 2 sims away with very few exceptions. (^_^)

If your friend is a person of habit in any way, that'll make her even easier to follow, as it will just require a quick tour of a few locations to be able to keep up. (^_^)

Speaking for myself, I rarely if not never worry about people following me. In fact, I have a mountain of open invitations as I give map to my entire friends list. =^-^=

Lacking any mystery, the thrill of the chase dies fast and any potential stalkers simply fade away. (^_^)

I hide out in the open, so to speak. (^_^)y

she doesnt know anything about secon inventory so I dont think she is using that feature
and she says she is very random in her travels with no real habits..
is there a version of emerald that will let someone track a person?

are there griefer tools out there that let you track someone?

If Day Oh is still around I think we can get more details. But, I think there are methods of getting region position of an avatar via IMs. Either way, there will always be a way of gathering the information of an online avatar. (^_^)

Online status can be grabbed by LSL scripting. Avatar keys are readily available. Client-side radar spans clusters of sims. It's all just a matter of initiative. (^_^)

If this is becoming a problem, confront the person directly. Ask for this following to stop. If it reaches the point of stalking have your friend file an abuse report for Harassment. (^_^)

Just be assertive and work through it as though it's a social issue instead of a technical issue. (^_^)y

Thankyou Imnotgoing.
I will suggest to her to confront this person and ask them to stop.

I did a bit of research... if HE's using second inventory, there's a tool in there that lets you track an avatar's location by opening an IM to the avatar, (but not necessarily sending an IM). So, if he's using that, at the moment, there's no way to stop him from tracking her that way, except, of course, the 100 percent sure way to hide from someone, create a new account that he's unaware of, and use that to gain access to the grid.

well it is a she that is doing the tracking hehe but I think you may be right.
Thanks

"Second Inventory is a popular application that lets you back up inventory. It has taken great care to only allow copying of items for which you have full permissions. But embedded in the application’s communication tools is “user location” data. You can see the region and exact coordinates of any user who speaks in a group chat, or with whom you open (but do not necessarily use) an IM.

Second Inventory takes advantage of an Improved Instant Message function built into Second Life. This message function communicates the region ID and location of users, and is equally applicable to objects."
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Am I the only one on this forum that went OMG - and then got very angry when I read this?

What do you want to bet that that "Improved IM" feature is a God mode function that only the Lindens are allowed to use, and conveniently forgot to put a server-side access check on? It would make a handy way to track where someone or something is dynamically in-world when given a key.

I need to head to bed right away so I can get to work tomorrow .. could someone clueful submit this to the issue tracker and bring it up in a Linden meeting sometime? Its a giant-sized security hole when it comes to personal privacy.

Those are pretty much just carryovers from Shooped and other copybot sources. (^_^)

Though, it confirms that my memory was correct about IMs delivering sim location data. (^_^)y

You don't even need to be given the key. Any alt-client user (Emerald in particular) knows that AV keys are directly accessible at all times via search and profiles. (^_^)y

No kidding. I'm sure it's flying off the shelves of "Stalkers R Us."

All of this shows that SL is and has always been a rather leaky system in regards to our avatar information. I don't see this changing any time soon. (^_^)

In the end, this just goes back to my prior suggestion of treating this situation as a social (maybe even psychological) issue and confronting the person directly. (^_^)y

Or maybe she should just totally ignore the person when she appears beside her...

... You should see what I've done to past stalkers. =^-^=

@Lou: Yeah, well, if the 'stalker' in question has Second Inventory, it has that feature...

@Soen: I doubt it, the changes that were made to IMing were put in place to improve instant messaging over the previous system. While users didn't see any changes when it was implemented, it was done (most likely, I'm guessing here), to lighten the load on the asset servers by incorporating that data into an IM session start so that if needed (for teleports and such), the data is there ahead of time and doesn't need to be queried, cutting down on asset hits and improve response time. The 'god mode' functions are different, and only work for Lindens because any god mode functions that do exist check the account status of the avatar to see if they're allowed to have that function.

When the client was open sourced, I knew this sort of stuff would happen, the only thing was that I thought it would have happened quicker than it has. I thought that this sort of stuff would have cropped up within months, not years like it has taken. It only seems to be getting worse too. I was looking around the web and found a forum that had a 'SL secrets' section, and it turned out to be more of an SL hacks section. Much of the posts dealt with viewers that have simplified copybotting functions and the like. One would think that LL would implement some sort of viewer reporting scheme, and only allow access if the viewer has been verified by LL as ok to use. They could then block hacker/coybotting viewers which would slow things down (until the hackers figured out ways to false report the viewer to the servers). Probably why they've not done it. It's and endless cycle of block/unblock.

In then end, the victim here could simply mute the stalker and just ignore her until she gets tired of being on mute and goes away.

easy solution:
find a land owner willing to ban said avatar, then TP to that land =)