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Grace Cuthbertsson

Registered User

Join date: 1 Aug 2009

Posts: 41

01-07-2010 09:51

I just checked my transaction history and noticed a 12$L debit for "group liability." What is that for? And to whom was it paid?

Thanks

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Ciaran Laval

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Join date: 11 Mar 2007

Posts: 7,951

01-07-2010 09:55

One of the groups you're a member of has got financial liabilities turned on for the role you're in. The transaction history should tell you which group it was.

Kara Spengler

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Join date: 11 Jun 2007

Posts: 1,227

01-07-2010 09:57

Ugh, the group liability issue again. *sigh*

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Chris Norse

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Join date: 1 Oct 2006

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01-07-2010 09:58

In probability, the group owns land which is listed in search. That 30L a week is divided among all members who are in a role with that checked. By default it is checked for everyone in the group. 12L is an odd amount though.

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Grace Cuthbertsson

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Join date: 1 Aug 2009

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01-07-2010 10:14

Oh, that's right. I do have a listing for 30 per week for my organization that is owned by the group I created. I had assumed that I was the owner of the group, that I would be charged that fee and not the group, which is not the case as I now realize. This is my first group owned organizaiton, so I am still learning.

Thanks so much for your help.

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Blessings,

Grace Cuthbertsson
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Ciaran Laval

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Join date: 11 Mar 2007

Posts: 7,951

01-07-2010 10:18

Ah your other group members may query why they've been charged Grace!!!

I don't know why financial liabilities is on for everyone by default.

Chris Norse

Loud Arrogant Redneck

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 5,735

01-07-2010 10:24

Something else to think of, if you sell the land while the liabilities are checked for everyone, everyone gets a cut of the sale price.

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William Wallace, Braveheart

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spinster Voom

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Join date: 14 Jun 2007

Posts: 1,069

01-07-2010 11:39

From: Grace Cuthbertsson

Oh, that's right. I do have a listing for 30 per week for my organization that is owned by the group I created. I had assumed that I was the owner of the group, that I would be charged that fee and not the group, which is not the case as I now realize. This is my first group owned organizaiton, so I am still learning.

Thanks so much for your help.

Oh, this trips up so many people. Is there a JIRA to get this changed?

I once had a serious falling out with a friend when his group started charging a liability. He had no idea, and I had no idea this could be done accidentally.

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Ciaran Laval

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Join date: 11 Mar 2007

Posts: 7,951

01-07-2010 11:55

From: spinster Voom

Oh, this trips up so many people. Is there a JIRA to get this changed?

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-378

Raudf Fox

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Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

01-07-2010 12:49

Yep went and voted for it. I left groups who foisted the cost of directory-advertising onto their members. Usually, these were established groups and no where did it say in their charter that they passed the buck (or bill in this case) onto the members.

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Group Liability
Grace Cuthbertsson Registered User Join date: 1 Aug 2009 Posts: 41	01-07-2010 09:51 I just checked my transaction history and noticed a 12$L debit for "group liability." What is that for? And to whom was it paid? Thanks _____________________ Blessings, Grace Cuthbertsson ______________________ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16, NIV)
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	01-07-2010 09:55 One of the groups you're a member of has got financial liabilities turned on for the role you're in. The transaction history should tell you which group it was.
Kara Spengler Pink Cat Join date: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,227	01-07-2010 09:57 Ugh, the group liability issue again. sigh _____________________ Those Lindening Lindens! 'O predictable experience, O predictable experience, Never shalt we define thee. Our users think that means no lagging, But we say they want no shagging. O predictable experience, O predictable experience, We love you null expression.'
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	01-07-2010 09:58 In probability, the group owns land which is listed in search. That 30L a week is divided among all members who are in a role with that checked. By default it is checked for everyone in the group. 12L is an odd amount though. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Grace Cuthbertsson Registered User Join date: 1 Aug 2009 Posts: 41	01-07-2010 10:14 Oh, that's right. I do have a listing for 30 per week for my organization that is owned by the group I created. I had assumed that I was the owner of the group, that I would be charged that fee and not the group, which is not the case as I now realize. This is my first group owned organizaiton, so I am still learning. Thanks so much for your help. _____________________ Blessings, Grace Cuthbertsson ______________________ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16, NIV)
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	01-07-2010 10:18 Ah your other group members may query why they've been charged Grace!!! I don't know why financial liabilities is on for everyone by default.
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	01-07-2010 10:24 Something else to think of, if you sell the land while the liabilities are checked for everyone, everyone gets a cut of the sale price. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
spinster Voom Registered User Join date: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,069	01-07-2010 11:39 From: Grace Cuthbertsson Oh, that's right. I do have a listing for 30 per week for my organization that is owned by the group I created. I had assumed that I was the owner of the group, that I would be charged that fee and not the group, which is not the case as I now realize. This is my first group owned organizaiton, so I am still learning. Thanks so much for your help. Oh, this trips up so many people. Is there a JIRA to get this changed? I once had a serious falling out with a friend when his group started charging a liability. He had no idea, and I had no idea this could be done accidentally. _____________________ From: Rioko Bamaisin Grunting is hard
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	01-07-2010 11:55 From: spinster Voom Oh, this trips up so many people. Is there a JIRA to get this changed? https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-378
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	01-07-2010 12:49 Yep went and voted for it. I left groups who foisted the cost of directory-advertising onto their members. Usually, these were established groups and no where did it say in their charter that they passed the buck (or bill in this case) onto the members. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?

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