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If someone simply reports you for something you didn't do, do u get banned?

Goatsmilk Rexen
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10-11-2008 23:05
People will randomly get pissed off at me, follow me around and harass me. I guess it's just part of the game. But some just make themselves angrier and angrier at me and not tell me why, then out of no where say they are reporting me. It happens here and there but could i get banned for this? I'm just running around playing the game, buying and building stuff, not really in anyone's way...
Ai Kikuchiyo
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10-11-2008 23:14
No, Linden Labs simply follows up and varifies what happened before taking any action.
Daniel Regenbogen
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10-12-2008 00:22
From: Ai Kikuchiyo
No, Linden Labs simply follows up and varifies what happened before taking any action.


Don't we wish for that...
Tarina Sewell
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10-12-2008 00:27
i have been on SL 1 year and some months and I still have no idea how to report someone.

Ive never reported anyone, aside from griefers to sim owners.. I have not really ben bothered enough by anyone that a simple eject and mute didn't fix
Ralektra Breda
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10-12-2008 00:56
I think LL tends to shoot first and ask questions later. But if people have a tendency to want to report you...maybe you should take a good look at yourself.
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Lynyrd Weatherwax
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10-12-2008 01:56
People become angry with you for NO reason ? Why would that happen ? Is there more to this than you have mentioned?
Porky Gorky
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10-12-2008 02:12
Dont worry, I've annoyed hundreds of people over the years and have never recieved a warning let alone a suspension or ban despite numourous threats of 'AR''
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10-12-2008 03:31
From: Goatsmilk Rexen
People will randomly get pissed off at me, follow me around and harass me.
Sorry, but I don't buy that. It just doesn't happen.
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FD Spark
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10-12-2008 03:53
I don't think they even permanently ban people who steal others content especially
textures but who knows. Maybe they do?
The only people I have ever heard who get kicked out for good or have
problems getting back is when they have committed act of fraud against
Linden Labs i.e buy some linden dollars with stolen credit card or
buy L$ from places not sanctioned by LL.
The other stuff I don't think they really investigate by some of things
I have heard they just ban the person for few days.
I am not sure if their is limit like if someone gets banned so many times
they are considered troublemakers and out forever or not.
I do know there are people who will hassle new people or different looking
avatars where new residents hang out or at info hubs.
Just avoid the places with people if it really get to be problem.
There is lot of places you can go and never see a another person.
There are people who do cause trouble and hassle others but you can
always mute and ignore those people, don't say or do anything when
they are start giving you hard time then they don't have anything to use against you.
Unless they make up something like what happen to my friend who was over 40 that
someone told LL she was under 18 but she was able to resolve it in a week.
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Desmond Shang
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10-12-2008 05:09
From: Phil Deakins
Sorry, but I don't buy that. It just doesn't happen.


Oddly enough, I buy it - it's happened to me.

I have a fairly busy grid existence - I log in, I work on other people's issues for a number of hours, sometimes I take care of my own (work) agenda before I get exhausted and log off. Almost no time for social... anything.

I have a paper-and-pen notepad here with a constantly running list of land transfers, parcel expiries to deal with, people looking for land or to sell rental rights, stuff like that. This is propelled by the constant stream of business IM's and notecards I get. On a busy weekend, I can be transferring 60 or 80 thousand square meters of land one small parcel at a time.

Meanwhile however I get all sorts of IM's, notecards, what-have-you on this drama situation or that. Alright. People can tell me anything they want (except I draw the line at chat logs, I do *not* want to see them). I should be clued in, if there is anything truly freaky on my estate I'd want to know.

But sure enough, there are those with a boosted sense of importance sometimes.

I was recently accused by a resident of 'outing' their alternate character, and threatened with an abuse report which would lead to my suspension, and thereby harm several hundred residents... and given 24 hours to reply, or he would assume that I had outed him and let me have it.

Fact of the matter was, I hadn't said anything at all. I considered the whole matter too inconsequential, and had hours of work to attend to. But it seems that yeah, he was outed by somebody! Next thing I know, I have people telling me that such-and-such is now so-and-so... everyone seems to know. Whatever.

I did reply within 24 hours, as instructed. Not with words, but with an ultra-rare Caledon estate ban and a mute. So now we got him on there long term, along with a few goofs who did the usual particle-spam kinda griefing that I'll probably take off the ban list in a week or two.

I came about thiiiis close to posting the accusatory message with all its avatar names, spelling errors and threats on SLUniverse (outside of Linden Research purview), but thought about it and decided to take the high road. That's not the kind of thing I want to be known for, irrespective of the situation - and even as forum entertainment it would be no better than B-grade.

* * * * *

So yeah Phil, one *can* get this kind of nonsense, even when totally minding one's own business.

Crazy, but I think it's a factor of: a) the number of people you know and b) what those people are like.
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10-12-2008 05:31
From: Ai Kikuchiyo
No, Linden Labs simply follows up and varifies what happened before taking any action.


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Ciaran Laval
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10-12-2008 05:42
From: Desmond Shang
I came about thiiiis close to posting the accusatory message with all its avatar names, spelling errors and threats on SLUniverse (outside of Linden Research purview), but thought about it and decided to take the high road. That's not the kind of thing I want to be known for, irrespective of the situation - and even as forum entertainment it would be no better than B-grade.


I'd have been amazed had you done that, that's so not you.

I'm awaiting the outcome of a split with a couple, the guy asked me to remove her from the land group, he's paying the rent so he's the boss on that parcel. However she still has objects on the parcel so if she asks for them I'll have to find a way of returning them amicably. I wish I didn't have to get involved in these domestic disputes.

However I think Phil's point is that a ban based on an accusation is unlikely, yet the more responsibility you have the more you worry about false reports and their implications. I certainly wouldn't be happy with a shoot first ask questions later policy, and as Desmond has like a zillion times more land than me it's surely going to be a greater concern for him.

The bottom line is we don't know how these issues are dealt with and that creates an air of discomfort.
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10-12-2008 05:47
From: Desmond Shang
Crazy, but I think it's a factor of: a) the number of people you know and b) what those people are like.


... and c) the number of people who -think- they know you, just 'cuz you're a 'celebrity' of some form... ;0 some people just find it easy to make up some 'fantasy grief' about someone else, or project their own 'muckedupness' upon them.

it broke my heart because i really don't have a mean bone in my body, but i had to post in my infonotes that those calling me and being plain 'insensibly angry' are subject to immediate mute/ban. (that helped cut down immensely on such callers.)
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10-12-2008 08:00
From: Ciaran Laval
The bottom line is we don't know how these issues are dealt with and that creates an air of discomfort.


I contacted Linden Research and while I won't get into particulars, I'm quite satisfied with their approach. It seems they deal with all manner of things like this all the time.

Certainly you don't get a free pass even if you think you are someone special, but they aren't generally going to be used for malice too easily. Not in any "I'm telling Mom!" sort of way, when two kids get in a tussle out of sight of the parents.

My top concern (separate of above case) was this: say someone chose to grief either myself or another resident, and rented land from me. I've never, ever, ever thrown anyone out for being trouble. Never had to.

But if it comes to it, there are cases where a land baron can legitimately toss a problem person - especially if the person got land with malicious intent. I'm finally beginning to realise that yes, there may come a day when I'll have to evict someone on such grounds. Or someone will make up some nonsense about me and post it just to hassle me.

All of this is just astounding, insofar as I've literally been working my tail off to make people happy, and have had an 'ignore it' policy with regard to drama. I've had to, or I'd never have made it this far.
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10-12-2008 08:03
LL has never been very transparent about AR's. They will claim they invetigate prior to a ban but at times I have my doubts. LL likes things to be automated and I suspect AR's are automated to some extent. Answering the OP's question is impossible :)
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10-12-2008 08:08
Desmond yes it happens once and awhile but what the OP is saying is that it happens all the time what Phil is saying is that if it's happening allot maybe your not so innocent
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10-12-2008 08:55
While I'm rarely, if ever, directly harassed. I have received a 1 hour warning/suspension from what I believe to be an un-investigated AR just recently. Most people here remember the thread. After about a week's worth of communication I received an apology and correction of actions from Linden Lab Support. (=_=)y
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10-12-2008 09:08
From: Toy LaFollette
LL has never been very transparent about AR's. They will claim they invetigate prior to a ban but at times I have my doubts. LL likes things to be automated and I suspect AR's are automated to some extent. Answering the OP's question is impossible :)


For instance, if you are AR'd for "age play" or for being underaged on the Main Grid, your account will be banned first, regardless of your age-verification status, and you will remained banned until you provide LL with hard copy faxes of your identification. There have been cases where providing LL with this information has not stopped LL from auto-banning your account AGAIN and make you provide them with proof of your age AGAIN.

http://www.massively.com/2008/03/11/how-many-times-do-you-have-to-prove-it/
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10-12-2008 11:00
From: Pie Psaltery
For instance, if you are AR'd for "age play" or for being underaged on the Main Grid, your account will be banned first, regardless of your age-verification status, and you will remained banned until you provide LL with hard copy faxes of your identification. There have been cases where providing LL with this information has not stopped LL from auto-banning your account AGAIN and make you provide them with proof of your age AGAIN.

http://www.massively.com/2008/03/11/how-many-times-do-you-have-to-prove-it/


QFT, exactly :) Guilty until proven innocent
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Alicia Sautereau
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10-12-2008 11:05
i`m not banned yet so that says enough...

hell, haven`t even been suspended once :eek:
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10-12-2008 11:09
From: Alicia Sautereau
i`m not banned yet so that says enough...

hell, haven`t even been suspended once :eek:


me either :)
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Abigail Merlin
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10-12-2008 11:21
I have withnessed once that someone got suspended becouse someone was griefing with alts in their name, a suport ticket from me however solved that quickly, I suspect the griefer got banned for alt abuse but not sure.
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10-12-2008 12:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Desmond Shang
Crazy, but I think it's a factor of: a) the number of people you know and b) what those people are like.



From: Nyoko Salome
... and c) the number of people who -think- they know you, just 'cuz you're a 'celebrity' of some form... ;0 some people just find it easy to make up some 'fantasy grief' about someone else, or project their own 'muckedupness' upon them.


My own weird experience with what I believe to have been a griefer (detailed in the "A Mystery" thread in RA) leads me to think that it's not just you well-known-in-SL folk who attract the occasional 'character'.

I'd suspect that there are some people in SL who spend all or most of their time going around and finding random people to poke with virtual sticks.

And if the person yelps and makes a fuss----Funsies! (to the 'character', anyway).

When my own 'character' IMed a week or so after the events described in my thread, saying Stop Showing My Property, Someone Told Me You've Been Showing My Property, Stop Or I'll Report You, I'm sure they were hoping I'd send a reply filled with indignation and counter-threats.

(Of course the fact is that I don't 'show' any property I don't own. I don't even 'show' my own, really, other than answering questions people IM me with.)

But instead I just replied "I see".

And that was no fun, and the person left to find someone who'd be more responsive.

Long-winded way of saying----if the OP is finding that people follow him/her around, then it seems quite possible that the OP is doing something to encourage them to do so.

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10-13-2008 07:27
I haven't been in SL very long, and so far only one person has been... difficult with me. I wondered about it for a while, but gave up thinking about it.

In one of the stores widely recommended as newbie-friendly and a good place to get free clothes, I had names shouted at me by the owner, was booted out, banned, and was told that an abuse report would be filed against me.

As far as I know, all I did was wander through the aisles, picking up items that attracted me. I don't think I was greedy.

The abuse report never came, which was something of a disappointment -- if it *had* come, I would have learned what on earth I'd done to piss the shop owner off.

It hasn't happened in any other store, and I shop a lot.

The point is, I don't know and can't know what it was about... perhaps I did something wrong, but whatever it was, she left in me in the dark about it.

All I can do is shrug and call it random.

And of course, to never go back.
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10-13-2008 09:12
From: Desmond Shang
Oddly enough, I buy it - it's happened to me.

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