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Ross Stringer

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Join date: 7 Feb 2007

Posts: 130

04-04-2008 09:12

Ok, i want to deed my land to a group i own, but there is an option that reads : Owner Makes Contribution With Deed, i hover my mouse over and it reads this : When the land is deeded to the group the former owner contributes enough land allocation to support it.
But i dont understand it, can anyone make it any clearer for me?

Toy LaFollette

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Posts: 2,359

04-04-2008 09:14

the owner of the land states they will also contribute teir tgo cover that land with making it group.

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Phil Deakins

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04-04-2008 09:22

Just like a person, a group needs to have tier in order to own land. It can't 'buy' tier like a person can, so it needs people to allocate the tier for any land that it owns, and the people must continue to pay for it.

When you deed land with tier, you are agreeing to continue paying for the tier that you allocated with the land, even though the group owns the land.

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Kitty Barnett

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Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 5,586

04-04-2008 09:30

First of all, don't check that if you're deeding land that is on a private sim (not mainland), it's not needed and could only cause problems.

When you deed land to a group then you technically no longer own the land, the group does. However, groups by themselves have no way of providing/paying for the tier that is needed to keep the land around so you would need to donate (some of) your own personal tier to the group in order to keep up the land.

(In a true group effort, many people could donate small amounts of their personal tier to keep the land up)

What you would normally do is open the group window, go to the Land & L$ tab and put in the required amount of m² of tier as your donation since land can not be deeded to a group without the group being able to support it tier-wise. Tier donated to a group is always considered as "actively used" though, so in order to deed land to a group you'd actually need twice the amount of tier (if that makes sense, you know everything you need to know really

).

"Owner makes contribution deed" simply combines donating tier and deeding the land into one single step.

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If you were to sell your then group-deeded land, your tier will remain donated to the group. If you wanted to buy a new bit of land, instead of buying directly, you'd go to "World / About Land" (and something that people easily forget, make sure you have the group you want to buy for as your active group) and click "Buy for group".

(If you wanted to get rid of your land entirely and tier down, you need to clear your tier donation in the group)

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(Oh and donating tier to a group means you end up with 10% extra... so if you donated 1024m² worth of tier the group could actually own 1126m² of which 1120m² is actually usable since land comes in multiples of 16m². In the case of checking "Owner makes contribution", SL just donates enough for the group to support the land, so it would donate 931m² which would support the 1024m²)

Or you could read
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=4041
and
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=4062
which should be less confusing than my explanation

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Deeding Land to group (Confused by a single option)
Ross Stringer SLFD Firefighter Join date: 7 Feb 2007 Posts: 130	04-04-2008 09:12 Ok, i want to deed my land to a group i own, but there is an option that reads : Owner Makes Contribution With Deed, i hover my mouse over and it reads this : When the land is deeded to the group the former owner contributes enough land allocation to support it. But i dont understand it, can anyone make it any clearer for me?
Toy LaFollette I eat paintchips Join date: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 2,359	04-04-2008 09:14 the owner of the land states they will also contribute teir tgo cover that land with making it group. _____________________ "So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	04-04-2008 09:22 Just like a person, a group needs to have tier in order to own land. It can't 'buy' tier like a person can, so it needs people to allocate the tier for any land that it owns, and the people must continue to pay for it. When you deed land with tier, you are agreeing to continue paying for the tier that you allocated with the land, even though the group owns the land. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	04-04-2008 09:30 First of all, don't check that if you're deeding land that is on a private sim (not mainland), it's not needed and could only cause problems. When you deed land to a group then you technically no longer own the land, the group does. However, groups by themselves have no way of providing/paying for the tier that is needed to keep the land around so you would need to donate (some of) your own personal tier to the group in order to keep up the land. (In a true group effort, many people could donate small amounts of their personal tier to keep the land up) What you would normally do is open the group window, go to the Land & L$ tab and put in the required amount of m² of tier as your donation since land can not be deeded to a group without the group being able to support it tier-wise. Tier donated to a group is always considered as "actively used" though, so in order to deed land to a group you'd actually need twice the amount of tier (if that makes sense, you know everything you need to know really ). "Owner makes contribution deed" simply combines donating tier and deeding the land into one single step. --- If you were to sell your then group-deeded land, your tier will remain donated to the group. If you wanted to buy a new bit of land, instead of buying directly, you'd go to "World / About Land" (and something that people easily forget, make sure you have the group you want to buy for as your active group) and click "Buy for group". (If you wanted to get rid of your land entirely and tier down, you need to clear your tier donation in the group) --- (Oh and donating tier to a group means you end up with 10% extra... so if you donated 1024m² worth of tier the group could actually own 1126m² of which 1120m² is actually usable since land comes in multiples of 16m². In the case of checking "Owner makes contribution", SL just donates enough for the group to support the land, so it would donate 931m² which would support the 1024m²) Or you could read https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=4041 and https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/KBAnswer.asp?questionID=4062 which should be less confusing than my explanation .

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