Don't go over 250 prims!

So even after all this time I have spent in SL today I get hit with something I had no clue about... I just completed a build and decided last night that I would take it all in as one bundle in order to save prims at my store and allow my rezzer to work. I thought no problem I will just rez it again in the morning. So I try and try and try and nothing will rez. So then I goto a sandbox even and try and nothing. Well I should not say nothing...
It did crash 2 times. So then I thought ok bad copy. Problem is I made 3 copies last night just in case and none would rez. So I did some asking around only to find out that there seems to be some 250 prim limit to a bundle!!!!!!! WHAT!!!!???!!!!???

Ok I could live with that however there is a problem here.... WHERE WAS THE WARNING? WHY DOES IT LET YOU TAKE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE THEN?

Who's bright idea at Linden Labs was it to limit a bundle to 250 and not tell anyone or even give a warning to the user before they take it all in to only look with tears at the build in their inventory knowing they will never see it again!

In case your wondering YES I am fricking ticked right off. So mad over it in fact that I have 100% had it with SL.

That being said... I have decided to make some kind of good from what I have done in SL to this point after all this time and hard work and building my name. I have decided to walk away by selling the business VooDoo DESIGNS for $5000 U.S. No joke 5k thats it. And all the money is going to a family that is in need of an addition to their manufactured home where there is 4 girls and 1 boy however all the girls have one small bedroom and there is only one bed in there. It is Chirstmas and I want to do something good for somebody else.

So if you are interested in a VERY well established business that runs itself at this point for just about free with the kind of profit margin it has then contact me in world.

~VooDoo

i'm sorry VooDoo. i didn't know about the 250 prim limit either. i wish you the very best of luck.

Overreact much?

250 prims is something major. Before doing anything major, it's best to research your project first. Many large scale prefab home builders have rezzer object scripts that place out multiple assemblies so they can allow their builds to be 300, 1000, or more prims. (^_^)

The limit for a linkset is also 255 prims. When working on any project, I always put thought into "Will I be able to link it?" and take that into consideration while I'm building so that I'm not flying off the cliff with my project and potentially causing myself trouble when I'm near completion. (^_^)

For some real fun. Try to frequent Blitz Build / Speed Build events. Not only do you have an arbitrary time limit, but you also have a prim limit. The NCI one is 40 minutes and 40 prims. The pressure and the limitations forces each builder to think about the prims they're using and often come up with 'prim saver' alternatives. It's a great skill to study and practice. (^_^)

Though, considering I wear a tail that has 222 prims in it, I'm not one to talk. (T_T)

=^-^=

There is a limit on the number of prims that can be in a linkset, but as far as I know, there is no limit on the number that you can Take as a cluster object. I have taken my entire house with all furnishings in a single cluster object -- roughly 750 prims.

If something went wrong, it was not due to the number of prims.





Okay, I'm ready for the next rant now.

same here, well over 250 prims in unlinked cluster...

I don't have many major builds, but what I have I make into a few linksets, save them and take a cluster version too. Then, if the cluster fails to rez, it's not so difficult to peice together a few large bits as a few hundred little bits.

EDIT

I just tested this, took in a build consisting of 29 objects, 661 prims, went to a sandbox and rezzed it from inventory with no problems. IT APPEARS YOU MUST BE MISTAKEN AS TO WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS YOU EXPERIENCED.

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I had not heard of this limit either. The knowledge base says only

"There are limits to how large a creation you can link together: No single object may have more than 255 prims, and no physics-enabled object may have more than 32 prims".

I'm curious to go test the limits in SL.



I applaud your desire to do something good for a family in need.

I tried to visit the website in your sig

www.voodoodesignsllc.com

but it could not be found. ??

That "250 prim limit" does not exist. I've taken builds with thousands of objects, and re-rezzed them with no problem.

Keep in mind, when you go to rez a lot of objects all at once, sometimes the system can take a while to do it. My guess is you simply didn't wait long enough to see your stuff appear.

You didn't, by any chance, accidentally include a Linden tree in the coalesced object when you took it, did you?

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3136

I dont know if this is related in any way, but last night we had some major weirdness on Etopia also. One person was fiddling with the parcels and all of as sudden the sim sent back a ton of stuff saying we were over the limit for prims. Unfortunately it sent back some bldgs etc, that we cant get at again. Im wondering if this is some sort of glitch that happened last night also...

SL has no glitches, what you experienced is LL's build from memory exorcises it's to help improve your memory skills and they do this for us at no extra charge.

if the prims were unlinked, then she had over 250 OBJECTS in the coalesced inventory item listing...


So there may be a limit to the number of unlinked OBJECTS that will successfully coalesce.

That said, SL is frequently weird. I got a mess of objects returned today, that simply vanished. NOTHING in Lost & Found!

I think you got this completely wrong. I just did a test 5 mins ago to make sure and managed to rez a copy of the 1000 prim build i am working on at the mo, none of it was linked. 1022 individual prims.

Maybe check the Jira for similar issues.

If you have no luck selling the whole business and still intend to quit then i may be interested in taking a couple of your better builds, I like your style.

I too have lots of coalesced objects over 250 prims, in the past week I have made 7 art installations with a full mix of perms and nearly all of them are 300 + prims, I have a 750 prim merry go round i made a long time ago, just rezzed it and it's fine

If your build had scripts you may have hit the 1024 script limit for coallesced/linked prims rather than a prim limit.

See http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1571 for details

Matthew

Is it possible that you were trying to rez it where part of it would be across property lines?

I know some strange things happen when you do that.

I'm probably totally wrong, but thought it couldn't hurt to mention it.

VooDoo,
What is a bundle?
I'm really not following this statement at all and I think it is key to understanding what happened.

Do you mean a bundle as a single collection of all the seperate objects into a coalesced or cluster? And why would this be saving prims? Are you trying to put this into a temp resser? I would think you would need to create a linkset for it to be used in a temp resser, in which case you would have recieved the message about the prim limit when when trying to link the objects from the Tools menu.

Like I said, I'm not sure at all what the process was that caused the problem in the first place.

As others have stated, there doesn't appear to be a 250 prim limit. My house that I'm currently working on is 340 prims and I take it and rez it as an unlinked cluster all the time without problems.

Since nobody else every asked:

Other than the business, can I haz the rest of your stuff?




And that bug about more than 1024 scripts is a bad one.

I picked up my new shop build which was between 2-3K prims into my inventory and re-rezed it with no problem. There is no limit on that to my knowledge.