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Resources for host that limits shout to 60m?
Margareta Loring
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08-12-2008 08:47
All the host mics seem to be scripted for 10, 20 and 100. Anyone know of an in-between alternative?

Thanks
Atashi Toshihiko
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08-12-2008 08:57
Those ranges are not set in scripting, they are hardwired directly into SecondLife. 10meters is the range of a whipser, 20meters is the range of normal chat, and 100meters is the range of a shout. There's no inbetween. The only alternatives would be to use IM, that lets you communicate at any range, and in private.

-Atashi
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Travis Lambert
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08-12-2008 09:07
I could have sworn there was a Jira entry on this, but for the life of me I can't find it :(

llSay needs to have an arbitrary chat-distance parameter (up to a maximum distance to prevent abuse). Until we have something like that, your next-best option is to employ chat-repeaters.

We use chat repeaters at the Shelter to mildly extend the range of mics & ordinary chat, without using shouts.
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Margareta Loring
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Thank you!
08-13-2008 06:58
Thank you for your responses. I was thinking that the distances might be hard wired in. The manager of the estate on which we have Club Your Destiny has recently instituted a "no shout" rule which is a challenge for us! I will look into chat repeaters!
Meade Paravane
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08-13-2008 07:28
From: Travis Lambert
I could have sworn there was a Jira entry on this, but for the life of me I can't find it

There's http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 , which asks LL to add llParcelSay.
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Yosef Okelly
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08-13-2008 07:38
As a work around ...

You could set up prims to act like a PA system. One to be the mic. Then script them so that the mic repeated what the host says and relays that to the speakers which in turn repats the message in open chat.

The down side is that where the speaker range overlap your visitors will hear the same chat line multiple times.

[edit] oh, I see you already mentioned chat repeaters. My bad for not reading carefully.
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08-13-2008 07:52
llParcelSay would be AWESOME.
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Atashi Toshihiko
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08-13-2008 08:08
Along those lines, I'd love to see an llEstateSay.. I could see it not working on the mainland, and being limited to channels other than zero, but it'd sure make things easier...

-Atashi
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Meade Paravane
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08-13-2008 08:12
From: Osprey Therian
llParcelSay would be AWESOME.

/me does not see a vote by you!! :P
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Awnee Dawner
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08-13-2008 11:19
From: Atashi Toshihiko
Along those lines, I'd love to see an llEstateSay.. I could see it not working on the mainland, and being limited to channels other than zero, but it'd sure make things easier...

-Atashi

llRegionSay does the job

just my 2 cents
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Atashi Toshihiko
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08-13-2008 11:39
From: Awnee Dawner
llRegionSay does the job

just my 2 cents


llRegionSay does not do the job. It ends at the region's borders and does not cover an entire estate.

For instance if I have scripted objects that were across 4 or 5 regions, on a private estate, and I wanted to have them all communicate with each other, I have to either use llEmail, or I can have chat relays that move around the estate carrying messages (prim carrier pidgeons), or I could bounce messages off an RL host with a combination of html and xml-rpc. All of these options have their own reasons for sucking, including unreliability, script delays, and so forth.

-Atashi
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Awnee Dawner
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08-13-2008 11:50
hey

yes sorry my mistake, thought my island(estate) is one single region so it works fine for me.
this way i can send message up to my skybox 500m.

just my 2 cents
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Astray Aluveaux
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08-13-2008 11:58
From: Atashi Toshihiko
llRegionSay does not do the job. It ends at the region's borders and does not cover an entire estate.

For instance if I have scripted objects that were across 4 or 5 regions, on a private estate, and I wanted to have them all communicate with each other, I have to either use llEmail, or I can have chat relays that move around the estate carrying messages (prim carrier pidgeons), or I could bounce messages off an RL host with a combination of html and xml-rpc. All of these options have their own reasons for sucking, including unreliability, script delays, and so forth.

-Atashi



So if you are an estate manager, just use the "Send Message to Estate" from the Region/Estate menu :)
Meade Paravane
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08-13-2008 12:06
That still wouldn't be the same since scripts can't listen for estate messages.

Fire up a JIRA, Atashi. I'll vote for it.
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