Creators: Ever tapped into Teen SL?
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Xio Jester
Killed the King.
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
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02-05-2008 11:22
I can imagine somebody along the line (a few people, actually) have either "cheated" and went into the Teen Grid as an ALT and set up shop, or had thier teen go into the Grid, and put a "copy" of thier shop on that Grid. ...from what I've seen on video, from School Machinimas/Campus videos...it looks like they could really use a lot in the hair, shoes props department. I don't know how it is 1st hand, since adults ain't allowed on that Grid, but it seems like a possible "goldmine" for some of you
BUILDS wouldn't be able to be exported & brought into the other Grid, but Clothing/Textures would. ...is anybody doing this?
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Cunundrum Alcott
A Sardonic Pessimist
Join date: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 773
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02-05-2008 11:24
I've never been on the teen grid, does it really exist?
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-05-2008 11:31
From what I've read & heard, very very VERY few adults have access to the TG.
Heh- talk about walking on eggshells!
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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02-05-2008 11:33
Transferring content between the adult and teen grids is a TOS violation. Getting caught at it would result in a ban. It wouldn't be worth the risk for a successful main grid content creator to get into a market as small as the teen grid.
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
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02-05-2008 11:37
From: Chip Midnight Transferring content between the adult and teen grids is a TOS violation. Getting caught at it would result in a ban. It wouldn't be worth the risk for a successful main grid content creator to get into a market as small as the teen grid. let alone confess in public...
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Xio Jester
Killed the King.
Join date: 13 Nov 2006
Posts: 813
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02-05-2008 11:43
Wow. So I guess the only way they could really do anything is to teach "Junior" how to build the shoes, hair, etc that mommy & daddy made...I wouldn't know about the actual lucrative aspect, but yeah, it would have to be a lot smaller than our Main Grid... ...I wonder if it would be against TOS for the teen to use thier parent's IMAGES/textures though. Say Tommy Fairplay of Dragonfly Designs has a kid who's like: Hey pop, can I put some of these suits up for sale on the Teen Grid? All he would have to do is re-upload the textures from the family computer from Tommy's backup CD or whatever... the "Creator" shown, would be the kid. In the end, I guess it's easier just to "wait for them to grow up" and hit the Main Grid, LOL -EDIT- Robbie Dingo is in the credits for this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3lqKHlKvKo
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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02-05-2008 11:45
From: Chip Midnight Transferring content between the adult and teen grids is a TOS violation. Getting caught at it would result in a ban. It wouldn't be worth the risk for a successful main grid content creator to get into a market as small as the teen grid. I do know some who have indeed done work on both grids, but not without severe restrictions -- but yes, I believe it also required recreating any content. Mari
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DaQbet Kish
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Join date: 22 Jan 2007
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02-05-2008 11:55
From: Xio Jester Wow. So I guess the only way they could really do anything is to teach "Junior" how to build the shoes, hair, etc that mommy & daddy made... I don’t see a down side to that. Teach them and let them start their own business. Isn’t that one of the purposes of the teen grid? Really I’m asking. I don’t know. I can’t get my kids of Facebook and WoW.
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Cunundrum Alcott
A Sardonic Pessimist
Join date: 15 Jan 2007
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02-05-2008 12:11
There is quite a market in child clothing in the mature grid.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
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02-05-2008 12:11
I have a child on the teen grid, and using "dad's stuff" is probably the very furthest thing from her mind. Quite honestly I can't imagine any teen would be very interested in what their parents do. They have their own lives and friends. Lest any of us forget what it was like - no matter how much you appreciated your parents they were: - generally uncool, - tediously boring compared to people your own age, - corrective, - potentially hugely embarrassing, - and don't know anything. So why copy them for mere money - you know, the stuff that gets you things you will probably get anyway? * * * * * I have never done anything more than appropriately supervise as a parent, but I would say this: kids *can* be very cruel to each other every once in a while. Wow. We joke about adults acting as if they were in high school... but, no, not really. Edit: unsurprisingly, I did get a lot of Photoshop and other 3rd party app usage questions - but hardly any inworld stuff.
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-05-2008 13:36
From: Desmond Shang Lest any of us forget what it was like - no matter how much you appreciated your parents they were: - generally uncool, - tediously boring compared to people your own age, - corrective, - potentially hugely embarrassing, - and don't know anything.
LOL! My parents are still that way! 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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02-05-2008 13:52
my stepson is still too young for the teen grid, but he wants to play SL sooo badly
he will walk by the PC when I am building and just stands and watches and keeps asking when he can do it too, I tell him not for a few more years hehe
he thinks it is cool (then again he is still only 8 LOL) but he has faith in SL, that it will still be here when he is 13 LOL
if I knew how to set up SL on a PC so that he could play around on his own, I would, but dunno how advanced the opensim or whatever it is called, is
anywho...
as for selling on the teen grid, I would love to be able to sell my modest clothing and shoe collection over there, but alas I am not a teen
Hard enough keeping up on the main grid, besides if adults are this much of a pain, imagine what having teenage customers would be like! *eep*
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Tengu Yamabushi
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Join date: 25 Sep 2005
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02-05-2008 14:51
From: Rhaorth Antonelli my stepson is still too young for the teen grid, but he wants to play SL sooo badly
he will walk by the PC when I am building and just stands and watches and keeps asking when he can do it too, I tell him not for a few more years hehe... You might try: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Main_PageYou can set your stepson up with a private sim easily enough - it's not (by any means) full-featured with regard to build/scripting tools - but it certainly will give him a chance to 'do what stepmom does' - in a 100% safe environment. Have fun! 
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3Ring Binder
always smile
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
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02-05-2008 14:54
what are the age limits (both ends) of the TG? i'm pretty sure my neice is still too young at 12, but her brother is on it at 16. will he be booted to the main grid at 18? btw, he has NO interest in building. i told him he could make money, but he says he gets it from his mom, so why bother. LOL
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Bradley Bracken
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Join date: 2 Apr 2007
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02-05-2008 14:56
I have a friend whose son is on the teen grid who is a very good creator. He says it's a waste of time though because there just aren't enough kids on the grid to make it worthwhile. Basically, it's really dull. He can't wait until he can get on the Adult grid and can't start having fun and make some money.
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Colette Meiji
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02-05-2008 14:59
From: Tod69 Talamasca LOL! My parents are still that way!  Teenagers today think the same about YOU! 
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Tengu Yamabushi
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02-05-2008 15:00
From: 3Ring Binder what are the age limits (both ends) of the TG? i'm pretty sure my neice is still too young at 12, but her brother is on it at 16. will he be booted to the main grid at 18? ... Teen grid is 13-17 (inclusive). My son will soon be 12... but I have no intention of letting him onto the Teen Grid - simply because the ToS is such that I can't exercise what I feel to be sufficient supervision (since I'm not allowed on the TG). I'd rather have him on the Main Grid (on my own private sim of course, with security safeguards in place - and only when I'm there also) - but that's, again... against the ToS. And yes, Teen Grid residents are shifted to the Main Grid when they turn 18.
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-05-2008 15:51
From: Colette Meiji Teenagers today think the same about YOU!  Almost! Most of them think I'm only 24 (not 3  I've already caught myself saying "When I was your age...." 
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Heath Homewood
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02-05-2008 16:30
From: Rhaorth Antonelli if I knew how to set up SL on a PC so that he could play around on his own, I would, but dunno how advanced the opensim or whatever it is called, is
Look into OpenlifeGrid, they are providing open-source alph asoftware to set up your own sim:  Keep in mind that you will be cut off from Second Life, however. You have to create everything from scratch. Oh, and OpenlifeGrid makes Second Life look like Stability Central, so be forewarned.
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Damanios Thetan
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Join date: 6 Mar 2004
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02-05-2008 16:49
From: Marianne McCann I do know some who have indeed done work on both grids, but not without severe restrictions -- but yes, I believe it also required recreating any content.
Mari I've worked on some stuff in the teen grid. (That is me as a person, not me avatar, you're not allowed to take your main grid avie to the teen grid.) It is allowed to transfer specific items from main grid to teen grid, within the rules of the project/contract you're doing. This process is usually done by simply transferring a custom made account/avatar from main to teen grid. This is a one way trip though. Of course, it's not allowed to go and make a business out of the initial gathering & transfer process. It's purely for quicker development/process use existing main grid source base material to run a LL certified teen grid project. Most of the content is effectively developed on the teen grid itself though. To be allowed on teen grid requires some serious background checking (not the 'automated age stuff'), no communication or possibility to actually go and explore the grid or the people. (You're limited to the assigned spaces for the project, and can't IM anybody).
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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02-05-2008 20:02
From: Cunundrum Alcott There is quite a market in child clothing in the mature grid. While true, it doesn't exactly bear too much relevance on the teen grid. I doubt many TG players would want the outfits that Bunny Creek, Babydoll's Boutique, Chelsea's Childrens' Clothes, Kick The Can, or Angelina's Little Girls' Clothes sell. From: Damanios Thetan I've worked on some stuff in the teen grid. (That is me as a person, not me avatar, you're not allowed to take your main grid avie to the teen grid.)
It is allowed to transfer specific items from main grid to teen grid, within the rules of the project/contract you're doing. This process is usually done by simply transferring a custom made account/avatar from main to teen grid. This is a one way trip though.
Of course, it's not allowed to go and make a business out of the initial gathering & transfer process. It's purely for quicker development/process use existing main grid source base material to run a LL certified teen grid project. Most of the content is effectively developed on the teen grid itself though.
To be allowed on teen grid requires some serious background checking (not the 'automated age stuff'), no communication or possibility to actually go and explore the grid or the people. (You're limited to the assigned spaces for the project, and can't IM anybody). This is similar to what another has told me about working there. Very structured process, from all I've heard. Mari
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