Is this too far to join the land?
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Phoenixa Sol
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10-01-2008 01:51
Okay, I'll add "Land Management" to my list of "SL stuff that flies over my head" however: Due to a shrinking prim count, we bought a 512 to add a few more prims, but it isn't adjacent to our plot. In trying to join them, (as we'd done with our land in another region, though those two plots were somewhat closer) I'm starting to think perhaps this 512 is too far away from our home plot to join to our land. (they're both in the same sim). I tried joining the closest corners of each plot, but still got an error that there are plots in the full selection owned by others, try smaller.  If anyone knows a workaround or solution, perhaps something I missed, we'd appreciate a bit of advice on how we can join them. (if we can) thanks in advance for any assistance!
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Eclectic Wingtips
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10-01-2008 01:58
you dont need to join plots in the same sim to hav them share prims (and in fact you can only join ADJECENT plots... that is plats that are touching). Those plots cannot be joined however they can share prims. To share prims both plots must be owned by the same person or group. It is as easy as that 
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Phil Deakins
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10-01-2008 02:01
You can join non-adjacent plots, Eclectic. I learned that recently and have done it. I don't know about a limit on distance though. The original plot ("our plot"  looks like a home, so I don't see any point in joining them.
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Eclectic Wingtips
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10-01-2008 02:10
From: Phil Deakins You can join non-adjacent plots, Eclectic. I learned that recently and have done it. I don't know about a limit on distance though. The original plot ("our plot"  looks like a home, so I don't see any point in joining them. O.o well then the lindens need toupdate their info, as my partner and i investigated this not long ago and according to the info we read on the land joining pages it says you cant. Well i stand corrected anywhoo  And im curious to find out more
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Phil Deakins
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10-01-2008 02:20
From: Eclectic Wingtips O.o well then the lindens need toupdate their info, as my partner and i investigated this not long ago and according to the info we read on the land joining pages it says you cant. Well i stand corrected anywhoo  And im curious to find out more I learned it not long ago when I saw that someone had joined 4x16m plots into one 64m plot, where only their corners touched. So I started a thread to ask about it and was told that non-adjacent plots can be joined. I then joined totally unconnected plots - not even corners touching - without any problem.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-01-2008 03:37
I have joined non touching plots that were on opposite sides (edges) of the same sim so not sure what the distance limit would be
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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10-01-2008 03:39
From: Phoenixa Sol Okay, I'll add "Land Management" to my list of "SL stuff that flies over my head" however: Due to a shrinking prim count, we bought a 512 to add a few more prims, but it isn't adjacent to our plot. In trying to join them, (as we'd done with our land in another region, though those two plots were somewhat closer) I'm starting to think perhaps this 512 is too far away from our home plot to join to our land. (they're both in the same sim). I tried joining the closest corners of each plot, but still got an error that there are plots in the full selection owned by others, try smaller.  If anyone knows a workaround or solution, perhaps something I missed, we'd appreciate a bit of advice on how we can join them. (if we can) thanks in advance for any assistance! strange question, but is the land you want to joined owned by the same person, or same group, and not by a person and a group? also is it set to a group if it is owned by a person, if so, just to be safe, make sure both plots are set to group basically, as picky as SL can be, make sure the land is owned by the same person, or group and that the settings are the same on both plots (ie set to group etc)
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Shifting Dreamscape
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10-01-2008 04:08
Ok .. now you've got me curious .. How do you join non-adjacent plots?
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Qie Niangao
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10-01-2008 04:17
To do this, one just drags the selection rectangle in Edit Terrain such that it grabs any bit of both parcels.
Rha's point about the to-be-joined parcels needing to have *exactly* the same owner is the first thing to check; I suspect that's what's happening in this case.
I'll just mention: one other thing that has bitten me more than once while doing this is discovering that some other bit of land that is within the selection rectangle is owned by a group of which I'm a member. (I suppose it only happens when I have some parcel permissions in that group, too.) That seems to confuse it about which parcels I'm trying to join, so it throws that same, not very helpful error message.
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Shifting Dreamscape
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10-01-2008 04:19
But If I drag the selection and it crosses another parcel (not owned by me) .. won't I be blocked from doing this?
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Dana Hickman
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10-01-2008 04:22
From: Shifting Dreamscape Ok .. now you've got me curious .. How do you join non-adjacent plots? Go into Edit Terrain, and select a small piece of one parcel, then drag the selection all the way over and include a piece of the other parcel, then join. Doesn't matter if you get other peoples land in the selection as long as you have some of each of your parcels. I've done this tons of times from LONG distances. Just remember that the parcel that you select FIRST will be ADDED TO the parcel you drag the selection over... that means it erases the about land settings of the first one as it mirrors the second. I've wiped media settings, screenshots, allow & ban lists, etc.. by selecting the wrong parcel first. 
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Shifting Dreamscape
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10-01-2008 04:34
Thanks! I'll give it a try when I get back in-world (have a bunch of recovered ad-plots that I'd like to join to my land
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Qie Niangao
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10-01-2008 04:50
From: Dana Hickman Just remember that the parcel that you select FIRST will be ADDED TO the parcel you drag the selection over... that means it erases the about land settings of the first one as it mirrors the second. I've wiped media settings, screenshots, allow & ban lists, etc.. by selecting the wrong parcel first.  I *think* this has changed, at least for different-sized parcels, and now it takes into account the relative sizes, with the larger one's settings (and identity, for Search purposes) "winning." But no matter what, it always clears the auto-return interval to 0.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-01-2008 06:43
From: Phoenixa Sol Okay, I'll add "Land Management" to my list of "SL stuff that flies over my head" however: Due to a shrinking prim count, we bought a 512 to add a few more prims, but it isn't adjacent to our plot. In trying to join them, (as we'd done with our land in another region, though those two plots were somewhat closer) I'm starting to think perhaps this 512 is too far away from our home plot to join to our land. (they're both in the same sim). I tried joining the closest corners of each plot, but still got an error that there are plots in the full selection owned by others, try smaller.  If anyone knows a workaround or solution, perhaps something I missed, we'd appreciate a bit of advice on how we can join them. (if we can) thanks in advance for any assistance! If the house bit of land is the "Our" land - then the land does not seem to have the same owner (group/person). The house land looks like it has a red border. The plot you are trying to join to it has a green border.
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Mjolnir Uriza
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10-01-2008 06:44
From: Shifting Dreamscape But If I drag the selection and it crosses another parcel (not owned by me) .. won't I be blocked from doing this? nope never has been the case as fair as i can tell,ocastionally you geta error when the system is acting funcky but try again the next day and it will work fine
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Phoenixa Sol
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10-01-2008 07:01
From: Qie Niangao
Rha's point about the to-be-joined parcels needing to have *exactly* the same owner is the first thing to check; I suspect that's what's happening in this case.
Same owner, same group, still not working. And yes, we do have land in another region that has several plots between that we joined, but in that case, we were able to select a corner, drag to the corner of the other plot and join them, it's just not working in this case.
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Phoenixa Sol
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10-01-2008 07:07
From: Lexxi Gynoid If the house bit of land is the "Our" land - then the land does not seem to have the same owner (group/person).
The house land looks like it has a red border. The plot you are trying to join to it has a green border. Actually, it does and in this picture it looks misleading due to the angle. Think big square, (where the house is) but there's a 512 sticking down from the middle of it, like a misshapen "T". On the 512 is actually a pool. I'll try again today
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Wicked Leigh
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10-01-2008 07:30
From: Qie Niangao I *think* this has changed, at least for different-sized parcels, and now it takes into account the relative sizes, with the larger one's settings (and identity, for Search purposes) "winning." That's correct. The largest of the parcels is used for the data. If both oarcels are the same size, and if it matters that picks etc. are maintained, cut a chunk out of the parcel that doesn't matter and join the three. Without doing that, there is no way to know which of the two will provide the data.
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Kirby Burnstein
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10-01-2008 07:35
You may have figured this out already but I didn't see it mentioned...
Make sure your draw distance is set high enough to be able to select both parcels. I find it easiest to fly up over the land an set my camera so I can easily see both parcels. Then, as long as the draw distance is set high enough, you can just drag select from one to the other and join them.
This has worked for me on small parcels at opposite edges of the region.
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Phoenixa Sol
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10-01-2008 07:54
I got it to work today, thank you all!
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Phoenixa Sol
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10-01-2008 07:56
From: Eclectic Wingtips you dont need to join plots in the same sim to hav them share prims (and in fact you can only join ADJECENT plots... that is plats that are touching). Those plots cannot be joined however they can share prims. To share prims both plots must be owned by the same person or group. It is as easy as that  Nope, they had to be joined and it worked today. Thanks
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